I am north west Florida and I am just starting to see pre-flowers, been pulling males. Being here I have grown before and been in full flowering by August and by Sept I am pulling them they are ready for harvest. If I left them till Oct they would rot and mold. I do have a small microscope and check the trics. I have now around twenty left, I bought seeds, and got twenty free, now get this the seeds I wanted the low Ryder didn't grow period, but the twenty free seeds did and it looks like some indica and I also grew some bag seeds and they look saliva. I am dying for them to get done.