Colchicine treating

[Dutch Pimp]

Test subject sounds too good, I'd like to call ya being the guinea pig. As, you never know what is about to happen when product consumed

I know ...that's where the fun is....:rastabanna:...I can test agent orange or DDT...no problem

[phatsesh101]

soaking seeds in colchicine is not to produce a hermi mother thats giberelic acid (not sure on spelling) and another acid to reverse it.

Colchicine is used to cause polyploidy which in theory is where we get high thc strains from and is a poison to the seed and everything, so its very hard to get them to germ and tens of thousands of seeds are needed.

disclaimer: i have not worked with it, just have done research in my many years of growing.

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i have a better link but they might sell seeds

[Deejay2163]

The strain that I've had the best success with is Pure Power from Nirvana.They offer the same seeds in a feminised version.The cost difference is quite substantial , therefore the basis of my question was ,if I could fem them myself ,I could save quite a bit of money.Having never tried feminised seeds before ,I was wondering if any of you had ever bought femmed seeds before and what your experience with them was. Thanks for all your help, y'all are a great source of info and very nice folks.

[Italiano715]

Fems and Hermies (changed title from 'feminize your own seeds')

Not sure if you read ^^^^ yet, but you should take a look at that WHOLE thread when you got time!

[oldmac]

If i'm not mistaken (and I certainly may be) I read that in the original Growers Guide. I guess the better question to ask would be , if I buy feminised seeds from a breeder , what technique do they use and is paying more for feminised seeds worth the added expense?

Commercial breeders use either light poisining or chemical poisining to turn plants hermie then usually collect 'naner pollen to use on selected breeding mothers.Good breeders usually are working with stable strains and offer good genetics even with femmed seeds. But since they are seeds there is some variation between all of them.

I currently have a thread in Basic Growing called "selecting a mom" and I have grown out a 10 seed pack of Sensi Seeds Shiva Skunk that "limited edition feminised". Going thru the process of grading the plants to figure out witch of the 10 plants becomes the mom #1 for a production grow. Stop by and just remember I go off topic often and encouage others to also if they want. Also showing some auto flowers that I 'm doing at the same time for what I call "shits and giggles".

BTW I think they are worth it, normally I'd start 20 or more regular beans and have to sort thru getting rid of males, so with fem seeds I only start 10. My concession to lazy or limited time.

[Rusty Trichome]

...if I buy feminised seeds from a breeder, what technique do they use

Varies by batch and breeder. Not sure I've ever seen the femming methods listed with sales or seed germination info. In my opinion, the ones to look for would be the femmed seeds as a result of light poisoning, though.

...and is paying more for feminised seeds worth the added expense?

If only getting femmed seeds, you will either run out of seeds quickly, or you'll have to make room for a clone mother, or have to learn to stress a lady into providing pollen to make more seeds, or you'll have to purchase new un-femmed seeds to grow a solid male for his pollen, or you'll have to cross it with a strain you already have, potentially degrading the strain, and results will always vary.

I think it'd be better to purchase the cheap, un-femmed seeds, and do the femming myself using the interrupted darkness (light poisoning) metheod. But even if you have to purchase femmed seeds it is tremendously convienent if you have the experience and checkbook. After all, having invested a month or more to raising the seedlings, it sucks having to cull half your plants because they are males.

Having said all that, I think keeping a clone mother is a tad easier for the novice grower once you master cloning... :thumbsup:

[Deejay2163]

Thanks to everyone for the information that you have so generously provided.Due to my circumstance of growing , I can only grow for about 8 months a year and I have no ability to keep a clone mother, therefore I am forced to have to start each new season's crop from seed.Most years ,my male to female ratio follows the normal line ,but occasionally I have a batch of seeds that only produces one or two females,therefore the basis of my original question. Normally I grow from September thru April.

[Dogznova]

Hi all... I hate to go a little off topic here but..... The mom I'm currently playing with has a very hard time going hermie using light positioning.. But using the spray method she hermies every time.. Other strains I have done will hermie using light positioning quite easily and not so easily using the spray. After thinking about this for some time my guess is that the strains come from different parts of the world.

Here let me explain...

The only way I can think of that this type of stress or (catastrophic disaster) could of happend outdoors naturally would be when the earth went into the ice-age. We all know a meteor hit the earth correct..... Well when that happened two things must of occurred. One the earth shifted off it's axis and two the sky turned gray fill with basically minerals from the ground and dust. Some parts of the earth NOW had the sun rise and set at different times of the day because of the meteor impact causing (light positioning) and some parts of the earth had it rain down water that was contaminated with minerals and such... Sorry I'm not a scientist just a med user. LOL You get the point...

Basically I can get some strains to hermie using light positioning and some strains to hermie using distilled water that I add a certain mineral to.

[Rusty Trichome]

A "certain mineral"? Colloidal silver, perhaps...?
If so...Silvermedicine.org - Colloidal Silver
I'm guessing that effects from smoking the residue hasn't been tested, but I'll pass. I'm just not a cavalier as I used to be.
I've never had a problem with the light technique though. (other than the first time, when I made few hermies instead of just one) Perhaps a longer interruption, or more lumens, or both...? I just sneak her out for a few nights, about 5-10 minutes, and sneak her back in. 3 - 23 watt CFL's.

Also...if you have the room to do so, no need to cull her so she won't pollinate everything. If you cut her back and re-veg her, (re-veg link is in my sgnature) she'll resume normal vegetative growth, and if no added stresses, no future nanners. Any nanners that were left after trimming shrivel-up and die. It's like hitting the "reset" button. Also provides boatloads of new shoots which are great for clones.

[Dogznova]

Rusty you are correct about the Colloidal silver... Works great for some girls not so good for others. Not sure why this particular girl won't respond to light positioning and we even tried a lot of heat with the light positioning technique... still no go.

Personally I only use the seeds and the pollen from the colloidal silver sprayed plants.. LOL... My uncle smokes the bud though.. He's not turning silver yet... He is kind of wacky though..

I do not recommend any med user to smoke bud sprayed with Colloidal silver....Just use the seeds and all will be good...... trust me...:thumbsup: