First time scrogger

[oldmac]

Indoor heat issues are a bitch. We had to drop 1 1000w HPS weeks ago and I think if we ever get real summer weather here where I am, the 2nd HPS will have to go.

T5s are alot like the LEDs, what heat they create is just the heat of making light, no secondary radiant heat like an HPS. Unlike LEDs tho the heat they create is generally below the light not above. BTW as a side note, I am not really happy with the results of the T5/LED hybred. Just not getting the amount of light mixing I had hoped for, it's pure LED in middle, pure T5 on outer rows and just some mixing inbetween.

I have been very impressed with the auto flower AK47s we are growing, nice size plants, excellent smoke (well only vaped ATT) and I'm thinking they are perfect for a small closet grow for the hobbyist. Something to consider. BTW just put a couple of pics up on my thread of the first one to be harvested.

[crabbyback]

Hi Horseman,
I also have heat issues in the summer. I've decided to use only my LEDs in summer and just one T5 on another table for mothers, seedlings, vegging.

My experience has been that a 4x48" T5 with my LEDs, in a grow cabinet still puts me into the danger zone (mid to high 80s). So, I'm not using it until I get past that major stretch in flower, probably for the last 4 weeks before harvest.

I refuse to A/C the grow area and a chiller won't work for me, so I'll probably end up a winter grower only. However, Rusty has a great thread on dealing with heat. Check it out.

Luck and keep cool,

[Horsemanrocks]

Thanks cb,
Temp control is a little easier now as overnight temps have backed off some. Heat (being cumulative) is hard to control when thereâ??s no ability to refresh overnight. I over-reacted a little by over watering a little. The Rusty link was goodâ?¦.made me feel a little more at ease about higher temps.
Iâ??ll be seasonal too, as my needs donâ??t overshadow the ability to produce.
Chiller, A/C, decisions for another time. If experience doesnâ??t teach meâ?¦.Iâ??ll ask.

Mac's right,
Willierocks.

[Horsemanrocks]

Tie points��..check
Screen in���check
Tiedowns��...at hand
Decisions madeâ?¦â?¦Letâ??s just hope that theyâ??re for the right reasons.
I thank all for the inputâ?¦â?¦at some point â??yous pays your money, and yous takes your chances!
Screen to bucket 12â?�â?¦â?¦.gottaâ?? admit, workability in a 30â?� deep cabinet played a large part in the decision. My lower back spoke loudest. If I see the opportunity to raise it in the futureâ?¦..itâ??s gonna happen!

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The only thing left is timing the veg perfectly��.how hard could that be��

For cb,
Testosteronerocks.

[Weezard]

Aloha, Stoned Pony,

"Weeze, if you happen to stumble across this (and I do mean stumble). In another thread you suggested a higher heat threshold than is commonly used, but didnâ??t elaborate much. That and any tricks as to how to get away with higher heat would feed my decaying gray matter. Donâ??t worry, Iâ??d print it out."

Actually, that's what extra CO2 is for.
Up roun' 90+ degrees F. Hemp will grow at an accelerated rate if it has extra CO2.
Seems that normal levels are not enough at these temps and most strains will cease growth without some extra "carbonic fo' da chronic."

Fun thread, don't know how I missed it.

Cheerio,
Weeze

[LOC NAR on probation]

I don't know if they will stumble but I can.

If you have a sealed room and the proper CO2 equipment, valves and timers.
Yes you can run higher temps with high levels of CO2. Finish your grow, bigger and a week or so early.

The trick here in hydro is to keep the water and rez cool. Many ways to do that. Chiller for rez or keeping the rez in A/C in another room and keeping water circulating. The rez must stay cool or root rot.

[Weezard]

"The rez must stay cool or root rot."

I hear that a lot!

Aloha Loc Nar

Have to disagree though.

Been extremely lucky I guess.
Got no rot at 85 -90 F. in my rez.
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I attribute that to aggressive aeration and tap water with chloromine.

Of course, tomorrow, it could go tits-up on me.

ciao

Weezard

[LOC NAR on probation]

Aloha, Weezard.

The proof is in the pudding. Wish I had that mix. If mine gets to 78 degrees it's rot city. Using R/O water and calmag.

Let's not have any of that tits up talk. It's working don't change anything.

[Weezard]

Aloha, Weezard.

The proof is in the pudding. Wish I had that mix. If mine gets to 78 degrees it's rot city. Using R/O water and calmag.

Let's not have any of that tits up talk. It's working don't change anything.

Try tap water.
Or add a tsp. of bleach per 5 gallons of R.O..

I had a black fungus coat my wicks when I used distilled water, and rain water.
Went to tap water, and now can do an entire veg .without changing out the rez bucket.
I lift the root ball and lower it into a bucket of bloom nutes when we go into flower.
My lanai can hit 90 F. in the summer but that rez water lasts until chop time.
I just adjust the PH and nutes on the fly until harvest.

Disclaimer:

Not really suggesting anyone else push their luck this way though.
Their milage can, and probably will, vary.

Aloha,
Weeze

[Horsemanrocks]

Thanks guysâ?¦â?¦there is a lot of â??absoluteâ?� knowledge around hereâ?¦..until it isnâ??t.
I did install this, due to a suggestion on another thread that I eliminate chlorine.

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I havenâ??t taken the time to clarify if the local water is conditioned w/ chlorine or chloramines.

Or add a tsp. of bleach per 5 gallons of R.O..

I would image that youâ??re using the two interchangeably (chlorine and chloramines)â?¦..SÃ* o no. I do get my 30gals quicker if I donâ??t use the filterâ?¦.and the bleach would be chlorine.

As far as CO2â?¦..still holding outâ?¦..maybe too much for a never has been. Life is longâ?¦.when the time is right!

root rot.

Ever since I went on social on Social Security��kinda been afraid to look!

Enquiring minds want to know,
Horsemanrocksâ?¦..out.