If the day ever dawns that my innies match my outies.
I will say that LEDs have arrived.
Hmmm...

My HPS and MH never really matched my outdoor grows in terms of thick vigourous growth, somy personal definition is when they match HID lamps.

But they will have really arrived when they cost the same as HID.

Then HID will meet the same fate as Kodachrome.

M.P.