LED Aerospring Garden Grow Log

[flippa]

Hey Joefarmer... I am also following your thread. About to kick off a grow with my procyon and cfls (identical lights to yours + 2 watts per bulb) though I will be using soil and dwarf/autoflowering plants. I meant to use my procyon for my last grow but my first procyon broke and by time I had received my new light, i ended up using an hps 250watt. So excited to go procyon all the way. Particularly with low height plants. With LEDs not penetrating as much as HPS.. I'm hoping I might edge past 2.5 ounces with a SOG (8 1-1.5 foot plants plants) of autoflowers. I've only ever seen pure procyon and home depot style CFLs grow 2.5 ounces so I would love to see what your end weight is and how your grow goes. One this that is worrying me a bit is speed though.. procyon grows tend to take forever to mature. Having said that every one of the grows I've seen uses the most inappropriate strains for leds. Not all strains are equal under LED in my opinion. With autoflower plants not following light changes... touch wood... I might be able to follow a pretty normal grow schedule + a week or so. Gonna be interesting and hopefully pop out some personal in time for Christmas !

Anyway... please keep your thread going I am v interested in. Thanks for all the posts! Cheers!

Oh and btw - if your hermi's balls are growing out of the actual bud as opposed to growing in clusters by itself... that's how you get feminised seeds. A good little tip for controlling the balls is to paint calamine lotion (the pink stuff you can get from most chemists) onto the male balls only. This will stop them opening and pollinating. It's better doing that than chopping the balls off since when you chop... many more grow back in their place. A little something I picked up during my last grow where I had hermis. Hope it helps! And yes hermi bud is fine to smoke. Mine was great!

flippa Reviewed by flippa on 09-26-2009. LED Aerospring Garden Grow Log Greetings everybody! This is my first indoor grow ever! Been doin' it outside for a while, and am now expanding my horizons. Here's what I've got: 3x3x7 closet 1 Procyon 100 4 23w cfls (5500k for veg, 2700k for flowering) AeroSpring Garden w/8 3" netcups 4" computer fan in the ceiling for exhaust 1/2 reflective insulation board lining the walls 1mil. mylar on walls 20lb CO2 tank w/regulator Rating: 5

[Joefarmer]

Thx Flippa!
Yeah mine are taking quite a while to mature. It's gonna be more than 10wks bloom time I think. 11-12? It seems they've had white pistils for ever! I've got maybe 5% red pistils.

I will have many seeds to remove after harvest but the bud will not be wasted. If I don't like the smoke there's always hash, butter, etc. I don't waste a bit. These 2 bagseed plants have pretty much taken over the closet. Scrog barely tamed them. Next grow I will not veg as long and hope to eventually have clones and do SOG style grows with one same strain. This seems more appropriate for LED grows due to the lack of light penetration as you mentioned.
peace

[flippa]

Hey JoeFarmer,

Definitely recommend doing lots of smaller plants either by sexing them earlier or by just growing dwarfs. Since you are using unknown seeds you might end up with monsters still even if you turn 12/12 when they are still small. My last grow I ended up with loads of dwarf plants (on purpose) and topped them after their 3rd set of leaves (meaning they were pretty damn small immature!). If I'd had more time, I would have topped them another time. Either way... I ended up with multiple cola 1.5 foot plants which were beautiful (those were under a 250hps). So much more manageable. I've grown monsters in the past that overwhelmed me and my closet. I know a lot of people are big on LST but I am lazy and topping is easier for me. Better than that is just growing plants that are dwarf in nature in the first place and limiting the pot size. Smaller pot = smaller plant = what I want! They still can bud real well but just need more attention with the nutrients. Having said that I am a soil grower not doing aero like you. Either way... good luck mate with this grow. Am well excited for you! I'll let you know how mine turns out. Starting to think I am only going to add CFLs during the last 2-3 weeks of flower since my space is quite small and I want lots of space around the procyon. This will be a v interesting test of the procyon. Even if I just pop out some popcorn bud... heat benefits FAR outweigh my HPS... and I'm going experimental this grow. The mission is to reap before Christmas. This is gonna be a true test . Cheers!

[Joefarmer]

Question 4 everyone. When I do the final 2wk flush with plain H2O, does the water need to be kept at 5.8 or should it be more neutral?
Any help is much appreciated!

[flippa]

Not sure about hydro but for soil I would keep the water at the same PH as it's kept with nutes. I only use same PH throughout the grow whether plain or with nutes... for me that is between 6.6-8. I would guess the same principles apply for you but I've never grown using hydro/aerospring. If I were to use neutral PH7 water it would raise my soil PH to that which would mean some nutes would be locked out and the purpose of the flush is to get the plant to eat any nutes in the soil left over and eat the plant itself free of nutes. Ideally I like to see nearly all my fan leaves yellow and fall off by harvest. Then I know the girls are going to be tasty. Be interested what you hydro growers do re this. Good luck Joe Farmer!

[Joefarmer]

Theyre almost ready. Another week or so. Turned the CO2 off yesterday. Temps rose several degrees. Up to 65-68 now. It was 60 for a bit with the cooler fall temps. I also have not turned my heat on yet so its only about 50 in the house. Who'd a thunk I might have to actually raise the temp in the closet?

[flippa]

so how are they looking? Are you pleased with potential yield despite the learning curve involved? A happy Procyon user? My autos have just sprouted and are on day 2 of grow... definitely loving the procyon so far. Early days though!! Keep us posted mate! Thanks .

Oh yeah - and how have you found the smell? I heard procyons make the plants smell less because they are cooler and the plants don't sweat as much. How have you found it? You must be looking forward to harvest time! I'm rooting for ya :jointsmile:

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

hello farmer,

so how'd these ladies come out?

[M.B.A.]

hello farmer,

so how'd these ladies come out?

yeah?

[Joefarmer]

so how are they looking? Are you pleased with potential yield despite the learning curve involved? A happy Procyon user? My autos have just sprouted and are on day 2 of grow... definitely loving the procyon so far. Early days though!! Keep us posted mate! Thanks .

Oh yeah - and how have you found the smell? I heard procyons make the plants smell less because they are cooler and the plants don't sweat as much. How have you found it? You must be looking forward to harvest time! I'm rooting for ya :jointsmile:

PC on the fritz. Sorry yall. Taking longer than I thought. Just chopped the hermie yesterday and the other has a few days left. Been flushing for over 3 weeks now! So they'll be nice and clean. The non hermie is looking great! dense colas and very purdy. pics soon!

Flippa, Very happy with potential yield w/learning curve. Both plants dry will be close to 2oz. The hermie, being seedy will just be put into butter or the kief screen, haven't decided yet.
Happy Procyon user?....Absolutely!
Smell? It is minimal. 1st indoor grow though, so I have nothing to compare it with. I have no filtration, it's just vented into the attic and I get a slight whiff of it every now and then outside and inside near the attic hatch. I made a diy 5gal pail carbon filter but never installed it. Not sure it'll fit in the attic space anyway. I'm in a very safe place. It's all good!