Thank you Edgar, that is exactly the point. How is it possible that our 10X is great for him but the 20X sucks. He even admits to reordering. Even in the crudest means of producing extract, it's really not possible. But not to worry. We aren't selling anything to anyone here. We are only defending our good name. In fact, we aren't even going to sell salvia anymore thanks to all the amatures. But when someone attacks us because they have a personal vendetta for some unknown reason, then we must respond. Everyone thinks these message boards are for consumer advocates to make attacks against companies. The problem is, no one does their own research, they just believe what people type. And anyone can type anything they want, true or not. So go peddle your lies elsewhere.