Quote Originally Posted by SauceeMcGee
:S2: Shake, you seriously need to:smokebong: and just be :hippy: about it.

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SMG, i tried to help this guy in a different forum, the exact same thread. he has since posted his problems in the troubleshooting form thread, same post, pics and all. he then proceeded to put in in the appropriate place. same post and pics.

i gave him advice in the first thread and told him to fill out the troubleshooting form more than once. then weezard chimed in.

then in the troubleshooting form thread he posted and rusty told him to fill out the form.

now he's here and you have provided a link to fill out the troubleshooting form.

he obviously doesn't care to help himself.

my hostility is not directed at bongtok4u, i just get frustrated with trying to help people out that can't post in the correct forum or can't read properly or who won't do what is asked of them. the only reason things are asked is to help PROPERLY diagnose the problem.

he gives a few specifics, a few pics and says guess! that's called shotgun troubleshooting. you know, like when you hold a shotgun at your hip, shoot some bird shot at a big piece of paper filled with possibilities and then pick a random possibility to start at. that's not good from a troubleshooters end or for the person needing help.

i understand what you are saying. i try not to loose my cool, but i'm not perfect. i try to help out as much as i can. pay it forward as a lot of people like to say. hell, i've only been growing since last october!

to bongtok4u, sorry for acting like a jerk. help us help you. no one is gonna spoon feed you 'round here. we are here to help. there is a method to our madness (usually)! work with us. thanks.

good growing.

you guys rock.


-shake