Help with bubbleponics

[Weezard]

Well, you won't be.
After this next exciting episode of;

Mary Wanna! Mary Wanna!

We're up to our hairy ears with lavarock here, brah.
Free for the taking!

But, like 'tron, it has no "holding capacity"
The drainage is near perfect.
For drip, drain to waste, E & F, it's useable.
But, for container growing, it's just not suitable.
Like 'tron, it takes up space better used, IMO, by more roots.

Coco's advantage?
Holds and serves nutes efficiently.
Is very difficult to overwater, and weighs almost nothing, dry.
So it easily holds 20X it's own weight of water.
Root infiltration is excellent.
When it's time to transplant, the rootball can be pulled from a container like a cork and dropped into a "cork" shaped hole in a larger container with no xplant shock at all!
Seriously, they don't even pout.

What turned me on to coco was a grower named Puffzter.
He's in a chair so weight was an issue.
Da bro grew some of the finest indoor buds ever, in coco.
If you can find his thread, he also created spreadsheets of his feeding schedule that are useful.

Well.
Will Mary Wanna wanna marry Gary?
Will Gary flee Mary, in a rubber boat, down the Estuary?
An' how 'bout dem Menehuni? Is dey ears all dat hairy?

For all da dirt on dirt what's not dirt.

Don't miss the next episode of MW! MW!

Beeg Aloha
Itty li'l 'zard.

[Horsemanrocks]

Just when I think that youâ??re gonnaâ?? be a tough guyâ?¦..You open up that tiny little Wee Zard heart to help out a totally undeserving Newb. (occasionally we ask a specific questionâ?¦.to a specific person, because we want their opinionâ?¦.not consensus opinion)

We're up to our hairy ears with lavarock here, brah.
Free for the taking!

Hmmmâ?¦.let me see. Plane ticket to the islands, airport parking, rental car, baggage fees for all that lava, meals, tips, bail for the illegal â??liftingâ?� of the lava, attorney, return for court, fines, costs of being incarcerated, costs of therapy for jailhouse abuses.
------------------------or--------------------------
Trip to the city to da dePot
Hmmm,
Guess Iâ??d better start shopping for the plane ticket! Iâ??m a sucker for â??free stuffâ?�.

But, like 'tron, it has no "holding capacity"
The drainage is near perfect.
For drip, drain to waste, E & F, it's useable.
But, for container growing, it's just not suitable.
Like 'tron, it takes up space better used, IMO, by more roots.

Lava may not hold, but neither does Hydroton (in comparison to Coco). My recirc DWC with bubblers would end up the same w/ either. Only a bubbler failure early on would leave me S.O.L. and thatâ??s the same either way. Lava only seems the better choiceâ?¦..Gonnaâ?? do it, would be prudent!
Anybody ever heard of coco in a netpotâ?¦.not me, (so far). Sounds soggy.

Bongtok, Your absence relieves any guilt of a thread hijack, I hope that you got what you needed.

What turned me on to coco was a grower named Puffzter.
He's in a chair so weight was an issue.
Da bro grew some of the finest indoor buds ever, in coco.
If you can find his thread, he also created spreadsheets of his feeding schedule that are useful.

Been reading Puffzterâ?¦.he has a lot of posts, with loads of replies. The spreadsheet is no longer activeâ?¦..Iâ??m reading, Iâ??m readingâ?¦..and I donâ??t believe a word of it!

Will Mary Wanna wanna marry Gary?
Will Gary flee Mary, in a rubber boat, down the Estuary?
An' how 'bout dem Menehuni? Is dey ears all dat hairy?

Thanks for the wisdomâ?¦..itâ??s really only secondary thoughâ?¦.Truthfully, Iâ??m just in it for the verse.

Rocksâ?¦.out!


P.S. I have no idea what =P, :P, and =D stand for. Is it a European thingâ?¦..or what! If you knowâ?¦.Iâ??m all ears.

[Weezard]

"Anybody ever heard of coco in a netpotâ?¦.not me, (so far). Sounds soggy.
"
Au contraire mon frere
Heard of it,
do it alla time,
not soggy.

I guess you are only in it fo' da verse.
Don't seem like you been payin' attention, brah.

When I firs' started onna threads, I wanted to he'p evah body.
Soon realized that parroting what I'd read, without trying it personally, was not really helping.
Could not avoid the fact that a lot of the conventional "knowledge" I found here was pure horse exhaust.
And, is endlessly regurgitated.

All I'm saying is, just 'cause it's written down, don't make it fact.
Accept all kine ideas, but test them for validity.
Or;
Trust in the lord, but, tie up your camel.
Etc.

Ya see.
I'm just another bozo here.
Ignorant and under-edumacated
So, all I have to offer, of any value, is experience, born of experiment.

Anything else, folks can, and should, look up from reliable sources.
Fer instance;
Linda Chalker-Scott

(Thanks Rusty).

My advice to you?
Dump the 'tron.
Screw the lava-rock.
Bag the water pump and timer.

Simplify!

Ask yerself, what yer growin' for.
Give it just what it needs.
No less, no more.
Water.
Nutes.
Air.
Light.
(An' a way to keep it out of sight.)

A'ight?

Weeze,
(da 'zard of purple light.)

[Horsemanrocks]

Could not avoid the fact that a lot of the conventional "knowledge" I found here was pure horse exhaust.

I think that weâ??re beginning to make progress.

My advice to you?
Dump the 'tron.
Screw the lava-rock.
Bag the water pump and timer.

â??tronâ?¦..no longer a consideration
lava-rockâ?¦.still a considerationâ?¦..more talk needed.
No timer
Bag the pumpâ?¦..not gonna happen. The pump, controller, and res allow me the freedom to go away. Maybe to go to the islands to collect â??freeâ?� lava rockâ?¦.to run off with a younger woman named Libidaâ?¦â?¦or god forbid, to work.
Buckets top off automatically, so a back up has less to think about. (y yo también)

Coco is very near perfect for my needs.

My thought is that you have latitude to guarantee â??attendanceâ?� more than I do.


As to coco:
Okâ?¦.not soggy, ph sounds reasonable, but will coco support a plant.
I went over your â??ventions in your album another time. The â??net potâ?� is pretty tall. Was that for support issues. And where is the plant base in relation to the pot. (my 6â?� netpots are 4 ½â?� bottom to the rim)
Gonna use the pumpâ?¦..would coco fallout foul the filters and pump?

My advice to you?
Dump the 'tron.
Screw the lava-rock.
Bag the water pump and timer.

Itâ??s gotta frost an experienced guyâ??s butt when he offers up good advice to a newbâ?¦..and it goes ignored.
WeeZard, your experience, and patience do not go un-appreciated. Thank you, Sir.

(a moment for a rant:
I see numerous posts when the responder doesnâ??t even address the subject matterâ?¦.I can only guess, for the purpose of increasing their own post count, or for pimping their own thread. I always respect the time and effort that â??those who truly teachâ?� put in).

Libida.....are you out there?
Horseexhaustâ?¦.out!

[Weezard]

Gonna use the pumpâ?¦..would coco fallout foul the filters and pump?

Probably.
Though it's too soft to grind the impeller on the pump.

Not so for 'tron, with the endless red dust, and mini-cinders from lava rock will stop a pump dead.
Rinse the bejeesus outa dat L.rock, brah.
Nothin's perfect.

"Itâ??s gotta frost an experienced guyâ??s butt when he offers up good advice to a newbâ?¦..and it goes ignored."

Nope. Not at all.

No, "you betta b'lieve it!"
Mo', "take it, or leave it."
Offerings n edicts,
dey be different guys.
W'en 'em take it an use it?
An 'member from whosit.
An' give up some rep?
Well den, dat's beeg surprise!

Da weeze

[Horsemanrocks]

Not so for 'tron, with the endless red dust, and mini-cinders from lava rock will stop a pump dead.
Rinse the bejeesus outa dat L.rock, brah.

I bet that you had a real good laugh after posting thatâ?¦..give a newb an impossible task and thenâ?¦.well, just enjoy.

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Itâ??s never gonna be clean. I mean that if you pick it up in a handfulâ?¦.that alone creates enough abrasion to create more dust.
It doesnâ??t seem to float, so with luck very little will leave the bucket. (the pump is also very minimal)
Ok, first line of defense. (yeah I knowâ?¦the screen is way too coarse)

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Second line of defenseâ?¦..raised the pump off the floor of the controller

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Third line of defenseâ?¦..800 micron filter surrounding the pump.

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Fourth line of defence��.backup pump.

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Last line of defenseâ?¦.doing a little praying.


Go ahead��have a good laugh��you earned it!
Next time maybe we can just stick to â??What is the sound of one hand clappingâ?�â?¦.you know, an easy one.

Horsemanâ?¦..still rockinâ?? and a washinâ??.

[Weezard]

"Go ahead��have a good laugh��you earned it!

True dat!
Been dere, did dat, done!
You have no idea!
But you will.

Next time maybe we can just stick to â??What is the sound of one hand clappingâ?�â?¦.you know, an easy one.

Shoe!
<Balances one sandal atop his head and walks away>

Horsemanâ?¦..still rockinâ?? and a washinâ??."

Wash on, rockin' 'orse, wash on.

When the dust settles, <snicker>, you will have an excellent filtration system all ready for your switch to coco.
(You will get very tired of chasing the PH back down with the 'tron.)
'course, by then you will know that the water pump isn't even necessary.

Lizards gotta have some fun or da color changer goes all gray.
Aloha,
Wee, tiny, li'l 'zard

[Horsemanrocks]

And I always thought that I was just here for my own entertainment.

HMR

[Weezard]

And I always thought that I was just here for my own entertainment.

HMR

"And I have always thought that the world was un-kind, cheese and onions!" - Stig McNasty

No reason ya can't do both, yah?

Dat's what frens is for.:joint1:

Weeze

[Bonniesicker]

Weezard: Do u kno der country of der 700 islands?