Not tired of this thread, but just plain tired. Trying to get the ground ready for some fruit trees and blackberry and grape vines. (yes, they do grow in the desert) But it's friggin hot here, and no backhoe. Sucks the strength right out of ya.

Have you looked through some of the coco growlogs? Might pick-up a few good pointers I'm unable to provide. Could even ask a question or two about their techniques if the thread is still active. Not trying to push ya off on other's, but Dammit Jim, I'm just a soil guy. (sorry, t'was a crappy Star Trek reference)