Actually, we've found it's possible to overload particular processes with too much light. We're happy with what we have achieved with 180 watts and I think any fair assessment will prove what I'm saying.

I appreciate your responses and I understand your points of view. We are aware of the current state of technology of both large scale manufacturers and hobbyists. HID Hut, for example, has probably spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on R&D over the last few years, if not more. I won't add to the confusion, though, by interjecting any new ideas or arguments here. I don't think it would ever amount to anything more than disagreement without end. So, what's the point?

In any case, talking badly or disrespectfully about what anyone else is doing in this field is counterproductive, to be nice about it. But, it's all too common.

They say you should be the change you want to see in this world. I'd like a world with less bickering. Certainly, we can agree on that, right?