So, whether you think LEDs are worth buying or not, you'll have to admit that we either have something - for real - or we're completely insane. If people don't think the lights work, we'll take a beating, won't we? So, we put our money where our mouth is and have real growers evaluate our product to show we are for real.

All I wanted to do is let y'all know about us. I did that. Now, the more adventurous will be interested and the more sensible will wait for the proof to come in. In a year, it will be common knowledge. But, for now, it sounds impossible. Because no one else has done it. Well, someone had to figure it out, eventually, right? Is it really so hard to believe that day has come?

Micheal420,
Well the truth be told, OldMac has already been growing with LED's for a couple of years. So Has Weezard. In fact there quite a few of us here, myself included, that have grown fat sticky stinky buds with LEDs. So we know that it's possible, but we also know what's gonna fly and what ain't.

1 watt LED's just don't cut it !!!!
They don't provide enough photo energy (measured in micro-moles).
They don't provide enough canopy penetration.
3 watt LED's begin to do the job.
5 watt LED's are better.
15 watt LED's are currently the best single emitter LED package that can be easily sourced.

So go back to your boss and tell him that he better get cracking because the products you taut as being cutting edge are sadly being left in the dust. We have better home made LED lights being made by the foks on this board than the stuff you are trying to hawk at inflated pricing. I'd rather have one of Weezard's 5 LED 75 watt lamps than your 90 watt UFO (how many LED's?), and both Procyon and TI Bloom blow your gear from here to the next galaxy.

M.P.