Thanks from me too, Phatesh101, just saved it and will read it when I get a chance. Noticed the intro by Mel Frank, so it should hold some water.

And Horseman, sorry about losing Racquel but some other info in your brain might be a good thing.
You make a goodpoint about about newbs asking questions, I cringe sometimes when they get the bums rush with "google it"...like you point out it don't work that easy when you really are trying to find something on this site. But on the other hand some qestions are so basic it would be nice if they read something , anything on the subject first.

My atittude is to try to help anyone if they have a good decent approach and really need help. Some I've seen are past help and nothing I say will help them...or you just don't know where to begin.

Hey you can defend Cervantes, I don't have a problem with him, in fact like I said I was looking for his book to actually buy it. I thought it might be a good reference. I personally use a textbook I got 3 years ago for a horti class; "Horticulture, Principles and Practices" by George Acquash. It cost me abt $110, so it became my "go to" book for all things growing. Besides mmj I also dabble with wine vines used in viniculture. I've propagated vines for some wineries, including setting up a 5yr propagation program that takes only 3 years to do. (short days, shorten seasons all done indoors under artifical light and controlled enviroment)