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[jonnychimpo]

posted by greentrich: JFK was about to institute silver back into the monetary system so our money would be back by something. Look what happened to him. Oh..he also wanted to legalize cannabis in his second term...look what happened. Point being is the people that are in power and want to set things right...disappear.

this as an american myself completely agree with. this country is now ran by healthcare and a goverment who dont give to shits about its citizens just themselves after jfk this country when down the shitter and now it has been flushed by obama taking office. With america begining to fall the chances of war is inebitable because we all know obama cant handle his shit without fear of him knowing he just fucked all of us into this recession and i for one will not fight for this country and what it stands for

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if you guys want to think of yourselves as "slaves" then knock yourselves out but, please, speak for yourself. as a true believer in Capitalism and its natural use of greed as a positive thing, I say hats off to FNN and Alex Jones. You guys are genious!

me, i'm not rich but i pay taxes, have mortgages, car payments, credit cards, mutual funds, etc. i enjoy the full gamet of my capitalist "slavery". :rastasmoke:

if you are a true beliver in capitalism then how come we don't let these businesses that deserve to fail fail?

why do we let them act in reckless manners and expect to be bailed out with tax dollars?

if we are going to be capitalists fine, but we have to let business fail in order to push innovation and better methods and practices.

it doesn't bother you that the government uses your money to make money?


-shake

[boaz]

if you are a true beliver in capitalism then how come we don't let these businesses that deserve to fail fail?

why do we let them act in reckless manners and expect to be bailed out with tax dollars?

because i'm not running the gov't. :jointsmile:

if we are going to be capitalists fine, but we have to let business fail in order to push innovation and better methods and practices.

it doesn't bother you that the government uses your money to make money?


-shake

i agree with you, shake. in fact, my idea for a stimulus (short of doing nothing and letting it recover naturally) was to give all the cash (or tax refunds) to the consumers, i think that is about $7K per man, woman and child (assuming about $2 Trillion in spending or tax cuts) and let the consumers drive the recovery (e.g., let the good companies be revived and the crappy companies go down in flames, as they should). but, like i said, i'm not running the country so that is why they are doing all this other commie crap that they are doing.

but here is my thought, they say we've only spent a fraction of the trillions that they have allocated and the economy is starting to pick up already. maybe we can shit can the rest of the spending and the let the ecomony slowly build back naturally. that might be a nice change of pace. the reason the ecomomy tanked in the first place was because the excessive meddling of the feds and the federal gov't. :twocents:

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i agree with what you are saying boaz! we need more people like you in the govt though. i am only now starting to foray into politics and the economy.

i always appreciate a good conversation though. it's room for improvement as well as a means to collect information, ya know?

for what it's worth i think the econmy will go back down before it goes back up. maybe not if the Fed can keep it's dirty little hands out. i won't hold my breath on that though!

maybe we should start by getting rid of the legal tender act and go back to a commodity-based currency. get rid of this fiat crap.


-shake

[boaz]

thank shake. good luck in politix. i would vote for you if i live down there just based on some of your excellent growing advice! :greenthumb: i never have thought about being in politics myself, but it might be interesting to give it a try. kinda take the bull right by the horns. :jointsmile:

some might argue that we already are running the world thru the internets. i say were not quite there yet but give us time. :smokin: