So i use a chair, dosnt mean i cant grow!

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey thanks for the stars. Wow! I feel like im catching on to a few things here. Thanks my friends:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well iv been keeping an eye out and is growing well. The white things are sorta disappearing and either turning in to leaves or something i havent seen yet, but no balls of yet, cross your fingers. Shake suggested i use some molasses. Tried to get the correct kind but couldn't find, but what i bought. I am not sure how to use it or how often as this is all there getting at this point. I was worried about bugs, cuz this shit is messy as hell. Got all frickin sticky yesterday. I mixed 1 tbls to a gallon of tap water. I looked at them later in the evening and really no bugs at all, at least no increase in bugs. It says Mg of potassium, sodium Mg, sugars G, carbs G. Then under that Calcium 10% and Magnesium 20%; its also unsulphured.


Is it me or am i seeing some exaggerated leaf growth?


I gave each plant 1/3 dose/ as i wanted to start out slow and if a mistake happened, the cure would come easier and faster.

How often?
How much?

Couple of pics of potted plant in question and 2 of a couple beauties:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

you want to stop all nutes at least two weeks prior to harvest. i know that can be hard to tell, so you want to look at the trichomes. when you start getting some ambers it's time to harvest. everyone's preference is different. some like 10-15% amber, some 20-25%. the more milky they are the more uppity and cerebral the high, the more amber the more couch-lock stoned. (plus genetics play a large part in this too, obviously!)

so with that being said stop feeding around 75% or so of trichomes. just use pH'd water and maybe unsulphured, blackstrap molasses. (or the plain unsulphured found at the grocery store and walmart will work just fine, just not quite as good). at least this way you won't feed to close to harvest and next time you'll have an idea of how long it will be from the 75% (or so) milky trichomes til harvest and can adjust accordingly.


-shake

Can i use my 15-30-15 with the Molasses and just dilute it to about 1/4 strangth? Plants seem to love it. Then when trichomes stat to show any color, stop and just use the molasses?

[headshake]

what's up LSY? for the molasses it's pretty much accepted to use 1 Tbsp per gallon of water. i'm not sure about your nute regimen, but i water and feed ~once a week, with a watering(pH'd of course) with molasses in between, as needed. i've just started using it in veg and it seems to work nice there too.

it's diluted pretty well so it's not that sweet, hence the no more than usual bugs.

as you have found out, it's a good source of calcium and magnesium and several other trace nutrients. i believe that it can be used in lieu of calmag+ when using distilled or RO water.

that fert should be okay. start out at 1/4 strength and work your way up from there. you want to push them to their limit and back off just a bit. looks like they could use a little more N. the molasses will help supplement the K, but if you find something cheap to help as well it might be work a go. if not, no sweat.

to see the trichs clearly you might want to invest in a microscope. it'll run you about $13.

keep an eye on those trichs. they'll turn milky and then start to speckle amber. stop feeding nutes when they are almost all milky. just use the water and molasses.

i meant when about 75% turn milky. lol. blazing and typing out complete thoughts doesn't mesh so well all the time. my apologies!

-shake

[Shovelhandle]

I finally got through this thread. Very good log, letseeya.
I've had good results ordering from europe. Vu-Du, in Italy has some good stuff including Mr Nice Seeds. There are others in Britain and Netherlands that are very good as well as some discount vendors that sell brand name stuff for less than the breeders themselves.

I use 2 TBS /gallon balckstrap molasses. I recently read from a Jorjes Cervantes article where he recommended 2 tbs/quart every week
through flush.

Looks like you are doing very well for yourself too. I hope your crop comes in gangbusters.

Sho

[MDFinest]

what was his reasoning behind using 2tbs/qt during flush???

[irydyum]

He probably recommends it because it is a good organic source of trace elements. In all of his flushing advice, he says to use a weak fertilizer solution to fix symptoms of deficiency during the grow but you wouldn't want to do that right before you harvest. So, sub in the molasses, and you have something to feed your plant to the end, without worrying about excess fertilizer being taken up and ruining your final product.

[LetsSeeYa]

what's up LSY? for the molasses it's pretty much accepted to use 1 Tbsp per gallon of water. i'm not sure about your nute regimen, but i water and feed ~once a week, with a watering(pH'd of course) with molasses in between, as needed. i've just started using it in veg and it seems to work nice there too.

it's diluted pretty well so it's not that sweet, hence the no more than usual bugs.

as you have found out, it's a good source of calcium and magnesium and several other trace nutrients. i believe that it can be used in lieu of calmag+ when using distilled or RO water.

that fert should be okay. start out at 1/4 strength and work your way up from there. you want to push them to their limit and back off just a bit. looks like they could use a little more N. the molasses will help supplement the K, but if you find something cheap to help as well it might be work a go. if not, no sweat.

to see the trichs clearly you might want to invest in a microscope. it'll run you about $13.

keep an eye on those trichs. they'll turn milky and then start to speckle amber. stop feeding nutes when they are almost all milky. just use the water and molasses.

i meant when about 75% turn milky. lol. blazing and typing out complete thoughts doesn't mesh so well all the time. my apologies!

-shake

Hey shake thanks for comin by so fast. I was eager to start using the molasses to build up my Buds. So what i did was; well let me start from the way iv been doing things. I can carry one gallon at a time. So, i hit every plant with part of the one gallon. I make 3 trips every day to tend 6 plants. So each plant gets 1/3 gallon of water each day. This is what iv been doing since they've been big enough in the ground to handle this routine. Iv been mixing the fert at 3/4 strength and feeding them twice per week and thats the 15-30-15. I have worked up to this amount starting at 1/4. Now at 3/4 twice a week, while plain water each day at 1/3 gallon each plant. They seem to like this, because they are green and look perky. However iv noticed purple stems are coming back. Now earlier in the log i was told my ferts were to strong and was told not to use them, so for two weeks or so they only got water. Well the leaves got purple as well as the stems. I began using the ferts again and the new growth was nice and green. But today i noticed on a couple plants that the purple had come back. Am i giving to often, or to strong? Or just a genetic thing in the plants? I read that purple in some plants can come from Afghan origin. This im not sure of.

As the potted plant, it gets watered when it gets dry. I give a bit less then 3/4 ferts, but not always twice a week. I just look at the plant to determine if it needs a twice a week feed. Most often just once a week. I have given it 1 gallon of Molasses at one tbls. It looks nice and is still wet from yesterday.

I had planned to feed molasses once a week and continue using ferts till i see trich's start to cloud up, then cut ferts and only use the molasses till pickin time.

Thanks again everyone. You guys make this so much interesting and im learning so much.:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Shake, i need the advise. I only wanted to let ya know what iv been doing. Id like big buds and you, Irydium and others have paved the way so far. I wrote the above only so you can say, to much ferts, not enough, to much water, blah, blah.

Just didnt want ya to think that im tryin to tell you how it works, cuz for me thats a joke. I think with the help iv gottin from those iv mentioned and really very much luck. Im here, so thanks everyone. Some day i would really like to help like you all have helped me.

LSY

:rasta:

[irydyum]

We gotcha cuz. If you say you are adding nutes on a regular schedule, and the plant still seems to be showing deficiencies, it might be time to take your game up to the next notch and start ph control on everything. If you are adding nutes and the ph in the soil is out of whack, the plant can't take them up even though they are present. Do a couple searches on ph around here.

With some of your plants being directly in the ground, it may be difficult to gauge ph on those. (cant really do runoff test) Do a little lookin, and we will be here to help you figure it out.

I have only harvested one outdoor plant in my life and the quality was menial at best. I would look through some of their threads and see how they control ph. I'm sure the key is going to be the soil mix you use for the season, I'm just not sure of a good recipe on it.

Keep pluggin away brother, one day you are going to look back at this one and giggle:thumbsup: