Second Martian Method attempt

[Dogznova]

Sal sorry.... I was able to find the other chapters.. I have to spend some time reading the rest.. I'm sure I will have some ?'s:thumbsup:

[Dogznova]

Ok here is the 1st edition of the PAD manual. You can find it at the Temporal Photonics page at MySpace . Just click on the pic link.. Here is the link Enjoy:thumbsup:

MySpace - Temporal Photonics - 17 - Male - CHICO, California - myspace.com/temporalphotonics

[salmayo]

You can get to The 1st Edition PAD Manual pages by clicking on the "my pics" link in the main page that's jsut under the avatar area with the Temporal Photonics logo in it.

Take care, Sal.

[mainegrown]

i like the manual and pass on my thoughts to Rauber.. if he is reading then thanks has cleared up many questions. unfortunatly my head is pretty un-straight from lack of sleep and i dont think that all i am reading is sinking in.
-j

[Micsog]

so i took the time to read the first log and what is of the second and i understand most of it as i understand light spectrum a bit but i grow in a small
cab that i built 2'lx2'wx2'dx3't and i run 4-65w 2700k at 4000lum a piece if i add a couple red cfl's an red inc's to the first half of my SID time in my cab will it keep my plants shorter and with fatter buds or no? will it speed up my grow time? it just intrigues me and would hope i could get the same results with a simpler approach but if i have too i will try the whole method in a separate cab it seems promising to me but i've only been growing indoors for a couple seasons as i used to live farther south and grew outdoors for about 8 years this is the first time i've asked questions about growing from anyone other than my mentor a 40 plus year veteran of cultivating cannabis and he would just tell me to do as i'm told i.e. 18/6-12/12

[salmayo]

i grow in a small cab that i built 2'lx2'wx2'dx3't and i run 4-65w 2700k at 4000lum a piece if i add a couple red cfl's an red inc's to the first half of my SID time in my cab will it keep my plants shorter and with fatter buds or no? will it speed up my grow time? it just intrigues me and would hope i could get the same results with a simpler approach but if i have too i will try the whole method in a separate cab it seems promising to me but i've only been growing indoors for a couple seasons as i used to live farther south and grew outdoors for about 8 years this is the first time i've asked questions about growing from anyone other than my mentor a 40 plus year veteran of cultivating cannabis and he would just tell me to do as i'm told i.e. 18/6-12/12

Red Inc.'s (red light) is very slow both in terms of Time Factor (1/Rate) and metabolism, which is why Red LEDs don't hardly work without either additional spectrums or Rauber Enhancement.

All top lit Inc.'s contribute excessive to sub canopy stem elongation, Rauber Enhancement doesn't. Adding Inc.'s up to one third FLORO or equal HID wattage fattens up the buds and hasten's finishing, but not usually grams per Watt yeilds. Or could run the fire hazard of running half those incandescent wattages from sub canopy lighting, which give better results, but I hate the fire hazard issue. I aim a spot light up through the plant and out through the Cola of choice. Since THC responces are localized in terms of Red/FR ratio, so you can experiment with sub areas of your grow space to gauge results before upgrading the full grow space.

When you used mixed light systems we call it a wattage based system, because their wattages determine responce, and in this case adding Red CFL without Rauber Enhancement would slow grow and lower efficiency compared to ADDing 1/3 THE WATTAGE (off the top of my head about 86 watts?) OF YOUR CFL's IN THE FORM OF CLEAR INC.'S.

Adding PAD to the first half of your SID hours slows things down more than adding it at the end. Also slowing down the time rate during your "Day" light period has a cumulative slow down effect of the following SID, but not PAD, duraton.

Sorry if that didn't cover is all, I gotta run, but you should read the PAD manual listed in the pictures directory of the Temporal Photonics Myspace page, in case you have any more questions before I get a chance to respond again.

Take care, Sal.

[Dogznova]

Adding Inc.'s up to one third FLORO or equal HID wattage fattens up the buds and hasten's finishing..

Hasten's... means faster right?

Also slowing down the time rate during your "Day" light period has a cumulative slow down effect of the following SID, but not PAD, duraton..

Is this referring to adding clear inc's to the "day" light or red inc's?..:thumbsup:

[Dogznova]

Sal... I found the definition sorry.....To move in a quick fashion; To make someone speed up or make something happen quicker.. I had to look that up...LOL... I thought it meant slow down..:thumbsup:

[salmayo]

Is this referring to adding clear inc's to the "day" light or red inc's?..:thumbsup:

Either Clear or Red Inc.'s added to the "lights on" schedule leaves the plants clock and metabolism running faster when the lights first turn out and then through the rest of a SID Interval.

The light spectrums don't run the metabolism directly but through alterring populations of molecules that do, but altering the populations takes time itself, so there is a lag. There are lags like this in all such alterations in the form of transition time, but even during the transition the metabolism is changing in direct proportion to those molecular populations.

To make the car go, first someone had to put gas in the tank, but most people would just say push the gas pedal, which is unfortunately not always correct.

Take care, Sal.

[Micsog]

ok i get it kinda so that is what i'll do. 1/3 of my cfl wattage or 1/3 lumens i saw those halogen clear inc's at wally's and use it sub canopy and try to localize the effects what about the red inc's at the end of the cycle i thought
someone said it wakes them up but also make them think there getting more
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