From Joining the Military Thread: A Wide Discussion on American Military

[headshake]

When was the last war declared by Congress? Not Iraq. Not Afghanistan. Not Vietnam, and not Korea. What was that you were saying again?

i can't help it that the politicians decide to manipulate the constitution to fit their will. the military simply does as it's told. you question your directives after the fact. if you question during, you could die.

also iraq and afghanistan are military engagements (not formal war, correct) both (or all three if you count iraq twice) all approved by congress. who do you think votes on bills that decide how much is spent?

also, vietnam was a military engagement approved by congress. the korean war was authorized by the United Nations Security Council.

here are are list of the bills and when they were signed-

first gulf war (which is also technically a military engagement, not a war):

H.R.J. Res. 77
January 12, 1991

afghanistan:
S.J. Res. 23
September 14, 2001

iraq (the second time)
H.J. Res. 114,
October 16, 2002

If we are the best military why have we lost our last 3 "wars", and getting ready to lose a fourth?

please elaborate as to which wars we've lost? are you speaking german, vietnamese, korean or any other language? didn't think so. if our military isn't the best in the world, then who's is? how many other countries have you been to? how many military exercises have you been involved in? how many people do you know who've died in war (or a military engagement)?

[quote=JohnGault]I'm afraid you are incorrect. Everything anyone does is either "right", or "wrong". It's just a matter of perspective as to which.]/QUOTE]

how are you going to tell me i'm wrong and then tell me it's a matter of perspective. that means the subject is subjective, or a matter of personal opinion or belief. therefore, one can't be right or wrong.

a law is merely a matter of opinion that the (sometimes) the majority agrees with. does that make it right?! FUCK NO! i love the contradiction that you bring to your arguments.

Wrong again. That little show was a setup. Was that an Iraqi tank involved?

i can't even begin to understand what you mean here. if you have a certain video that you are talking about then please share. but the military was given orders to NOT do those things. they could give iraqis ropes and stuff, but could not be involved directly. i'm not saying that it possibly didn't happen, but that doesn't mean that the group that acted had consent from or spoke for the united states government or it's people.......i mean, what about the soldiers killing people for no reason. do those people speak for you? didn't think so.

and it's because of our military that you have the ability to sit behind a keyboard and post your OPINION!

so next time you want to tell someone that they are wrong perhaps your should check your facts!

also, the president can make ware for 180 days without congressional approval.


by the way, welcome to the boards.


-shake

headshake Reviewed by headshake on 09-12-2009. From Joining the Military Thread: A Wide Discussion on American Military coelho maybe you should sit this one out. this guy wants our opinions about joining the military, not your opinion on America fighting wars. we can debate that somewhere else.... Rating: 5