The whole "you can't know unless you've done it" argument doesn't really sit with me. It sounds to me like nothing more than a way to silence opposition...if one is informed to a great enough degree, they are entitled to a legitimate opinion that deserves more of a rebuttal than "if you don't know, don't say anything." I say the armed forces are soul-crushing because I cannot conceive how individuality can be maintained with a shaved head and a uniform, killing people their county's tycoons find troublesome.

If you really take anything the army does seriously and see it as anything more than a futile and vainglorious absurdity (involving proud kids who played with too many G.I. Joes), you need a serious lesson in detecting horseshit.

so you think you know what its like to serve? what its like to go to war? what its like to loose a freind in combat? what its like to be off some place in the world getting shot at while a bunch of little pansy assed mamas boys sit back home whining about how futile and vaingloriously absurd our military is? the truth is you dont and never will till youve been there. ever seen to people together who were both in the armed forces could have servered at 2 differant times or in 2 differant wars but they have a common bond, a mutual respect for the other. its a bond of brothers.

and no you cannot be a individual in the military. but it is definatly not soul crushing. what you do you like to think that your doing for the good of you country and your people. i may not agree with the politics of my goverment but i still love my country and the people of my country enough to serve my time in the military, and if need be i will die defending them. thats called patriotism and its quite soul inspiring. one thing the military definatly does for you is it teaches you to grow up.

this all goes back to one other thing that i mentioned a long time ago. this attitude of what has my country done for me. have we forgotten the immortal words of john " ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country"?

my apologys if this is takin as a flame. but i get quit pissed of when people put down our troops. these kids are puttin everything they have on the line sacrificing the best years of their life. just to get to come home and be shit on not by their own people but by their gov't. there should never for any reason be a homeless vet in this country. but that a differant subject. the military is a great institution our soldiers, sailors, marines, and flyboys are some of the best people around. its our corupt goverment in control of where they do their jobs at is what is at fault. there are no bad dogs just bad owners.

there is none who prays for peace more than the soldier.

oh and i never owned a g.i. joe
yokinazu Reviewed by yokinazu on . From Joining the Military Thread: A Wide Discussion on American Military coelho maybe you should sit this one out. this guy wants our opinions about joining the military, not your opinion on America fighting wars. we can debate that somewhere else.... Rating: 5