From Joining the Military Thread: A Wide Discussion on American Military

[Coelho]

Ok, if the subject is animals... how are called the sheepdogs that, unsatisfied of eating their own ration, start to hunt, kill and eat sheeps from other flocks?

[the image reaper]

Look.. If North Korea started fucking shit up tomorrow and invaded Canada (for whatever reason.. practice probably), I'd be the first one to enlist. I believe in freedom. I believe in protecting my freedom. I do not believe in forcing freedom upon others.

1. sorry, you can't wait to join up, AFTER they invade, that's not called 'defending freedom' :wtf:
2. it is impossible to FORCE freedom on someone :wtf: (think about that a minute, you'll see how senseless your comment is)

[headshake]

So do any of you military guys care to address the fact that war mongering is not protecting anything? That is the question at hand now, we aren't concerned about how to shoot a gun.

Look.. If North Korea started fucking shit up tomorrow and invaded Canada (for whatever reason.. practice probably), I'd be the first one to enlist. I believe in freedom. I believe in protecting my freedom. I do not believe in forcing freedom upon others.

And back to the initial question here.. dude, the military is not the only other choice if you hate college. Get a job with a construction company. That's what I do. I love working construction. Maybe look into some labour jobs before you enlist.

warmongering is something politicians do! the military are merely the ones that do the bidding. we don't decide what wars are started, that takes an act of congress. public opinion decides "right from wrong".

we are the best military in the world because we train to be. that's what the military is, training. training so when you go to war you do your job and you do it well so you don't go home in a black plastic bag. so just because we do our job with efficiency as trained to do, doesn't make us bad guys.

not everything the military does is right, or wrong. war is some nasty sh!t. bad things happen. sometimes in war there are preemptive attacks. that's the way it's been for thousands of years. some will agree, some won't and some will change their minds.

it's not for everyone. do politicians use it for personal gain? of course. but that's a different subject. that needs to change on a different level. that's something completely different from the military.

i agree with image about the defending freedom comment.

whether they had weapons of mass destruction in iraq or not, it was the iraqi people that toppled the statues of saddam. we defend the freedoms of others as well. do we do it for our own best interests? almost always i'm sure. that's another debate too.

i'm not knocking your opinion. i appreciate it.

some mess is gonna go down with north korea. will they attack canada? only if they aim for new york and their math is off. lol. so i think you are safe from joining.....for now.

my previous post about the rifle marksmanship was in response to JD's post about not pointing a gun at anyone.


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[Trip06]

Ok, if the subject is animals... how are called the sheepdogs that, unsatisfied of eating their own ration, start to hunt, kill and eat sheeps from other flocks?

No they are other citizens who help the hurd by being responcible gun owners and patriots. They are the kinda average joe hero thats saves peoples lives when some nut job cuts loose in a mc d's or robs a bank/ breaks into your home. Its funny how the anti gunners always think the police will snap and appear when the shit hits the fan b4 its to late. Dogs dont eat sheep they eat dog food.

I think thomas jefferson had it right, He thought every citizen shoulda be a soilder like the greeks. If some one was going to kill me I wouldnt think twice about it. Nor would I care afterwards. I think everybody should be used to blood and guts. Nobody like it cept psycos but seriously, If you come apon a car accident and people are spread like mayo all over the place how are you going to react to help when your mentally unprepaired to deal with it. Are you just going to stand there in the crowd? you got the internet go look up some gory war footage or something to get you used to it. People live in to much of a false sence of security. What if your family member gets hurt and seconds count? is all that gushing blood going to paralyze you? You never no it can happen.

[JohnnyZ]

1. sorry, you can't wait to join up, AFTER they invade, that's not called 'defending freedom' :wtf:
2. it is impossible to FORCE freedom on someone :wtf: (think about that a minute, you'll see how senseless your comment is)

1. There is nothing to defend right now because no one has invaded Canada. I don't even know what you're getting at here.. people can't join up after a war has started? I got shit to do I don't wanna be in the military all the time, just if I'm needed to save my country.

2. I don't know what you're getting at here either.. Team America tried to force the western way of life on the middle east and so far they haven't taken a liking to it so I'd say forcing freedom is a bad call.

[the image reaper]

Johnny Z, as a Canadian, you are my friend and neighbor, and God bless Canada ! ... that said, I would like to point out, Canada will NOT likely be attacked by anyone, because the USA has your back :thumbsup: ... if not for us despised and hated Americans, you Canadians would be speaking Russian, many years before now ... facts are facts ... you have the right to your opinions, too :thumbsup: (by no small coincidence, also guaranteed, and protected, by America, and her military might) ... we sometimes get it right, you know :s4:

[higher4hockey]

2. I don't know what you're getting at here either.. Team America tried to force the western way of life on the middle east and so far they haven't taken a liking to it so I'd say forcing freedom is a bad call.

you know this because you've been there, or because the news tells you that?

[the image reaper]

you know this because you've been there, or because the news tells you that?

straighten him out, H4H ... Game.Set.Match ...

[Trip06]

Globalization.

[JohnnyZ]

Oh I thought the troops were still in the middle east.. my bad. I forgot we were welcomed with open arms and sent on our way with leftovers for tomorrow's lunch.