Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyZ
Dude.. is that a pipe with the confederate flag on it? I hope that's just a joke..
Okay first of all my pipe is not a joke, the Confederate flag does not stand for racism, white power nor hate. I do believe there is a huge misunderstanding..because you are a little confused but that is okay that is how our schools around the world with history has distorted the truth so now that you have brought this up to my attention I will give you a little history lesson! Pay attention because most of everyone will agree :thumbsup:

The confederate flag is a flag and nothing more but a symbol, during the civil war it was a battle flag, they carried it a long with them onto the battle fields to let the north know that they we're coming (Or anyone else) and or who's territory was who's. The thirteen stars on the flag stand for the thirteen states of the Confederacy. The Confederate flag is not a racist flag, nor is it a flag of hate, it is the flag of our country, The Confederate States of America (Which in a surprisingly way still exist, at least from the inside).

The Confederate Flag flew over Slavery did it not? Well yes while this is true, the same can be said of the U.S. Flag. BUT U.S. Flag flew over slavery a full 70 years before the Confederate States of America came into existence . The Confederate Flag never flew over the Ships that brought the slaves over here. To top it all off, the Confederate States of America freed her slaves in 1863, the Federal Union didnā??t do it until 1868 with the passage of the 13th amendment. (So you see the South was not the only slave states)

Another thing the "Slaves" that everyone talks about being treated badly, not all of it is true what you hear..the north treated their slaves even worse then the south, and the north is the one who had the slaves in the first place! At that time we never knew what the southern soil of America was made up of because the Northern states we're so mountainous so the north sent out a bunch of people from them north to check it out, it came to be good land rich in soil and better weather so the north sent some slaves to help with labor did you get that? To "Help" not "Slave"..My point is that yes there we're some slave owners that treated the American Africans wrong and beat them badly those are the stories you hear in school and t.v. but you don't hear about the good ones how their lives we're just as good as anyone else.

Some slave owners in fact we're black as well and slaved black men and by choice not by force or threat, they choose to slave their own. Chinese, Mexicans, Indians, "Whites" still we're being slaved for labor..but you don't hear about that or see that on t.v. or school..You have to also take into consideration slavery has gone back since man kind has been around so what happened in America is nothing new. But my point is the Confederate Flag does not stand for racism and it never did nor will it ever in a life time of existence, I think you need to go onto Google and check out some more information for yourself and educate your brain just as I have because once I was just like you and looked at the south wrong and anyone who flagged a Confederate flag. :thumbsup:

I don't want to start any arguments or grudges between anyone or myself because I like this forum BUT I have the right to speak my opinion and factual wisdom because that is my first amendment right as an American!:s4:

Further more as a human being whether the flag did stand for racism and hate do I not as a citizen of America have the right to believe and show my own opinion? More beyond that if you think that it was a "joke" you could have asked me instead of implying me as a racist or anyone else that has a Confederate flag or symbol. And you see that this all creates by you assuming that my pipe is a symbol of racism? But in a big way its not your fault because our own government misinforms everyone and tell them things that aren't true and it leads to debates like this, but further more I am glad that you had brought this up because I'm glad that I have typed this all down now instead of later haha so no disrespect man! :hippy:

Dutch Pimp your hilarious haha Keep it up! :jointsmile:

Just to sum it all up I believe my picture I made makes sense