Quote Originally Posted by headshake
coelho, unelss those men were drafted, they had a choice.
I agree... and this is the choice Spoken Word is facing right now. But he must be aware of all the risks involved in this choice. Of course joining the military doesnt mean one will actually go to war, and even going to war doesnt mean one will die or get mutilated or incapacitated. But this are real risks that must be considered before choosing.

Quote Originally Posted by headshake
that is a choice that military men/women make on behalf of something bigger than themselves.
"Something bigger than themselves" like "freedom", "america", things like this? Well... they are just ideas, concepts... while one's life is real. But each one does whatever it wants with its own life...

Quote Originally Posted by headshake
so people can sit at home and be pacifists!
And yet, if everybody sat at home and were pacifists, there would be no wars, cause no one would be willing to fight them...

Quote Originally Posted by headshake
but those men/women that died for this county gave their life (once agian, not including the draftees). those are the true heroes. (...) but it is those people that defend those freedoms that we so enjoy. regardless of whether you or anyone else believes in the cause there are 17,18,19 year old kids dying overseas, doing as they are told. and that deserves supporting.
Well... from what i remember from world history, most (if not all) wars the usa fought at the last centuries were NOT to defend itself from a foreign invasion, but to attack other countries... and many (if not most) of this countries hadnt even attacked the usa in any way... so all this "defending the freedom" thing sounds like propaganda instead reality...
BTW the government of your country is the one which can take most of your personal freedom (and it seems it is already doing this), but no one seems to notice it...