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	05-22-2009, 08:30 PM #1
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Ok my setup is complete. My 2nd rubbermaid setup - Cannabis Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News , I've just placed 6 of my grem'd babies in some Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil as suggested and I'm starting them on 18/6 light (I've read some posts where people do 24 hr lights.. is this better?). I have them in some Sole Red party cups to start (I'm going to be watering them from the top for now, but I have read its better to water them from the bottom, any suggestions?). Once they are above the soil I'll post some pics, Figured no one wants to look at red cups with dirt in them wondering lol. :hippy:
gsosure Reviewed by gsosure on . Rubbermaid CFL bag seed grow Ok my setup is complete. My 2nd rubbermaid setup - Cannabis Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News , I've just placed 6 of my grem'd babies in some Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil as suggested and I'm starting them on 18/6 light (I've read some posts where people do 24 hr lights.. is this better?). I have them in some Sole Red party cups to start (I'm going to be watering them from the top for now, but I have read its better to water them from the bottom, any Rating: 5
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	05-22-2009, 08:39 PM #2
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well, first off, make sure your cups have good drainage ... second, do NOT fertilize your young plants, until they show about 4 sets of leaves ... especially, with Ocean Forest soil ... I like OF soil, but it is pretty hot, it has killed some more fragile strains, in my own experience ...
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never, ever, water cannabis from the bottom, always from the top ... cannabis requires loose, well-draining soil, it is crucial ...
24 hour, or 18/6, that will always be arguable ... personally, I use 18/6 ... I've tried about every combination, nothing seems obviously better, the 18/6 just seem 'happier' to me
do a lot of research while you're waiting ... Mandala's website has a lot of great info for growers, too ... good luck :thumbsup:
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	05-22-2009, 10:34 PM #3
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Great thanks for all the info. I have small holes poked in the cups to allow drainage and I have about a 15% mix for perlite and my FF.
I'll stick with the 18/6 seems so much more natural and nature like. I've been keeping to the moto "K.I.S.S" I figure this plant can thrive in nature on its own so I'm trying not to over do it. [IMG]
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	05-22-2009, 11:10 PM #4
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Ok so here is a noob question I was looking around on the site on how far I should keep the lights from the plants but only found info on HID's, but since I'm using CFL's I'm sure there is a slight difference. Right now with out measuring them I think they are about 10" from the top of the soil.
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	05-22-2009, 11:48 PM #5
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CFL's one to three inches away from the tops. They don't penetrate deep so you have to have them close to the tops without burning them. That's really the only problem with having CFL's is you have to move the lights up constantly.
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	05-22-2009, 11:53 PM #6
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Great thanks for the info going to move them closer so they don't stretch when they come out of the soil. Once things get going I'll slow up on the posts. Just want to make sure I get off to a good start.
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	05-23-2009, 01:12 AM #7
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10" is WAAAAAAYYYYYY too far for CFLs.
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you should keep CFLs anywhere from 1-4" away (closer the better obviously)... just watch you don't burn the shit out of your plants
you should read this: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...uch-light.html
exceptionally good info there.
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	05-23-2009, 03:16 AM #8
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Awesome yup just read that over and they are now from dirt to light about 3". Just going to keep a close eye on them once they come above the dirt to keep them from burning. I must say this site has been an amazing resource. I hope once I'm done I can use my knowledge to help others like I've been helped.
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	05-23-2009, 05:17 PM #9
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It's not as important in veg to keep the cfls as close as possible, when compared to flower. The main thing you want to avoid is stretching and heat issues with cfls in veg. As long as your not stretching and raising the temps. too high, you want them as close as you can get but honestly, I kept mine probably 5 inches or so away and I had no stretch or heat issues. 10 cfls, 26watters.
Until you get your setup and grow style dialed in, go by the general rules, the more light the better. IR, won't steer you wrong. He's right that OF is hot but as long as you don't fert too early, it's satisfactory for seedlings. Don't be surprised to see a little deformity in the early leaves/first round leaves. I use OF from start to finish. Always water from the top. Always.
As far as drainage holes are concerned, I like mine as big as possible. I make my own pots, and use a 1/4 inch drill bit for the drainage holes. The bigger the holes the less likely water will get trapped on the bottom and it also allows more oxygen to get to the roots. You will be thankful you added perlite. IMO, always add perlite.
I've used both 18/6 and 24/0 and saw no difference. The only reason, I don't know if its true or not, I used 24/0 last grow was I thought the plants would show sex earlier after the light change. My human thinking, thought that since they had never been exposed to dark that the first exposure would 'kick' them into flower faster. Took the ladies 3 days, which was quick IMO but I have no evidence to support either way.
Also make sure you don't water normally too soon. I had an experience once when I watered normally too soon and the seedling hadn't rooted down far enough and the entire thing, root and all floated to the top of the soil lol. I was pissed, but stuck the girl back down in the soil, and she grew fine. She was stunted, as you can imagine, by the experience but it worked out fine, she was only maybe 7 days behind the rest. I use a spray bottle until I think the ladies have rooted down far enough to handle a full on watering.
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	05-25-2009, 05:40 PM #10
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