Well I guess I'll update pics today. Here they are. The big plot has been beaten like I said, and all the plants lost a lot of bulk. Also there is a pic of the big one out backs multiple shoots from fimming, which turned out pretty good. Also the pics of the other plot, I staked the one as it really wants to lean to the sun, and its like 5 feet tall. The other is next to an axehandle for size comparison. Oh yeah and its gonna rain all week and then hopefully be sunny once the weekend hits, so I hope that helps.