the image reaper:

Let me make my position in this question crystal clear. I am an experimenter by nature as my screen name might suggest. I have never said that LED have reached an even footing with HIDs, but have been asking:

1) where are we at in this development curve.
2) how do LEDs compare to HIDs watt to watt.

I have also said that LEDs are totally not fiscally ready.

I'm to blame for the short stature of the planrs, not the LEDs. Traditional knowledge says that a female will stretch from one half (Indica) to one (Sativa) of the existing plants heighth so I chose to flower at 16". But the plants only stetched less than a quarter so I ended up real short. My bad, but we are still learning what to expect from LED grows.

All bets are off.

But someone has to continue the push into the new technology, I guess that why I choose to join in with the pioneers.

As the chief once said, "I'd rather be a lighning rod than a seismograph.

MP