Human stupidity

[bigtopsfinn]

Wow... Just read through this. Too many good quotes to go back and comment on them all, but let's just say I can agree with most of the things said. :thumbsup:

Anyway, I suppose the purpose of this thread was to discuss how we can find hope in the face of this, how I and others can avoid a descent into despair.

The most liberating thing I have done is not bought a TV. I still watch a couple of my favorite shows online, but that's about it. The rest of my free time I read online, because it's free, and it saves my blazed-ass a trip to the library.:stoned::stoned::stoned:

I think the human spirit will always overcome its suppressor, but these days it's so easy to sit on the couch daily, order pizza, and waste away. It's much more comfortable that way, because if you open your eyes just a little, you start to see the insanity and atrocities going on all around you...

[phatsesh101]

i agree with the dude who started the post but intelligence is the wrong word
and forredt gump got a degree

i think youre talking more about intellectualness if thats a word and what ive found with people of a higher iq tend to look down upon people and think theyre stupid. i too was afflicted with this then i realized theyre are not stupider but iam smarter. although i do have friends who can blow ne away mathmatically they cannot see the bigger picture of thinking logically or see through the bs they can do the problem but dont understand the pattern.

although i do agree with purple bananna i believe you guys are talking about different things

its like how barrack is president, most of america sees it as change but the ghetoo s see it as a front to avoid a civil or possibly a world war, buying time just what was needed for everyone to sit back and shut up from the bush regime but they both are funded by bilderburg. or how oprah and bill gates andd a couple other billionaires get together and its world news but when obamma dissapeared for a couple days to the bilderburg convention nothing was said by the media. this is the stuff i believe overthrow was speaking of. and if so america is blind or stupid.

[overgrowthegovt]

i agree with the dude who started the post but intelligence is the wrong word
and forredt gump got a degree

i think youre talking more about intellectualness if thats a word and what ive found with people of a higher iq tend to look down upon people and think theyre stupid. i too was afflicted with this then i realized theyre are not stupider but iam smarter. although i do have friends who can blow ne away mathmatically they cannot see the bigger picture of thinking logically or see through the bs they can do the problem but dont understand the pattern.

although i do agree with purple bananna i believe you guys are talking about different things

its like how barrack is president, most of america sees it as change but the ghetoo s see it as a front to avoid a civil or possibly a world war, buying time just what was needed for everyone to sit back and shut up from the bush regime but they both are funded by bilderburg. or how oprah and bill gates andd a couple other billionaires get together and its world news but when obamma dissapeared for a couple days to the bilderburg convention nothing was said by the media. this is the stuff i believe overthrow was speaking of. and if so america is blind or stupid.

You're right...I was speaking of intellectualism, more than simple intelligence. Interesting, what you said about realizing they are not stupider but you are smarter. My girlfriend says that if I hold people to my standards, I'll of course always be disappointed. I agree absolutely about the math thing--most of my friends are better at it than me, but just can't think logically about the big picture or see through the horseshit.

I was indeed speaking, in part, about the masses' tendency to focus on the superflous at the expense of the truly significant or the potentially troubling. I really fail to see how any reasonable being can deny the intellectual sterility of the populace, without resorting to pop-egalitarianism (our latest social disease).

[gibson3]

I agree with what the OP and one of the last posters said, it's a matter of the level of intellectual thinking. But, I do not think that society is getting more dumb or that people are becoming more materialistic than before. It's all relative. There have always been the intelligent, introspective types who like to think and can appreciate art and good music. There are people who are smart and work hard and become successful but that does not mean they are intellectual, and there are people who are normal and like MTV, etc. You just have to find people of a similar intellectual level to surround yourself with, and you'll probably get along with them best.

My own friends are a mix of all of these, and the ones I'm closest with are the ones who are like me, introspective/intelligent. My other friend's who just chill out are still my friends, we're just not as close because we do not connect.

I think people who look at humanity in this light, that the lack of intellect and critical thinking is bringing us down, are misanthropic to a certain extent, and have to realize that people are all different.

On a note to materialism - Status symbols, materialism, etc are all just objects of vanity, and being vain is a part of human nature. Sure, there are some people who don't care for nice things and are content with themselves, but I guarantee they wouldn't mind spending a little every now and then.

[ibetoken]

perspective is everything.

three words that i use to answer all of my questions.

[Trip06]

This has been seriously getting me down lately, and I'm curious as to your perspectives on this topic, and how severe you think this social illness is.

From what I've been observing, a depressing amount of people are content to live their termite lives in unquestioning intellectual sterility, devouring reality TV (and any other empty distraction), cultural and governmental propaganda, etc. They assert their values to you in a self-assured display of pedantry, values that have been hammered into them from the cradle and never examined. It seems everyone was either raised by a conservative fool or a liberal fool, with no capacity to look at things as they are, undiluted by some ideological piss filter. General knowledge, grammatical savvy, aesthetic appreciation...all these seem to be on the severe decline. Oh, and let's not forget 90% of the population's addiction to conspicuous consumption of useless status symbols.

My food for debate here is...shouldn't humans be smarter than this? I recognize not everybody's going to be Rimbaud, but I really think people could be educated in critical thinking, propaganda resistence, applied philosophy, etc. if only mainstream institutions weren't so reliant on the comatose mentality for their very survival.

Dude dont stress it A lot of these sheeple dont wanna hear anything that will upset their little insecure worlds of false sences of security. People dont wanna have to do anything other than "get money" and "be permiscuous". Its all the MTV, B.E.T. and hollywood. It seems the plastic cosmetic bullshit has really started to fuck people up. You can save some of these people but most just cant pry themselves away from the TV. Do yourself a favor and avoid them like the plauge. Theres other people out there, real people. imagine a world without hoodrats and barbiedolls.

[Trip06]

I agree with what the OP and one of the last posters said, it's a matter of the level of intellectual thinking. But, I do not think that society is getting more dumb or that people are becoming more materialistic than before. It's all relative. There have always been the intelligent, introspective types who like to think and can appreciate art and good music. There are people who are smart and work hard and become successful but that does not mean they are intellectual, and there are people who are normal and like MTV, etc. You just have to find people of a similar intellectual level to surround yourself with, and you'll probably get along with them best.

My own friends are a mix of all of these, and the ones I'm closest with are the ones who are like me, introspective/intelligent. My other friend's who just chill out are still my friends, we're just not as close because we do not connect.

I think people who look at humanity in this light, that the lack of intellect and critical thinking is bringing us down, are misanthropic to a certain extent, and have to realize that people are all different.

On a note to materialism - Status symbols, materialism, etc are all just objects of vanity, and being vain is a part of human nature. Sure, there are some people who don't care for nice things and are content with themselves, but I guarantee they wouldn't mind spending a little every now and then.

and theres people who are "normal" who watch mtv LMFAO HAHAHAHHA The VERY BULLSHIT THAT HAS RUINED OUR SOCIETY>>>>>>MTV<<<<<<

[DefDEEfying]

[QUOTE=overgrowthegovt;1990319...My food for debate here is...shouldn't humans be smarter than this? I recognize not everybody's going to be Rimbaud, but I really think people could be educated in critical thinking, propaganda resistance, applied philosophy, etc. if only mainstream institutions weren't so reliant on the comatose mentality for their very survival.[/QUOTE]

After decoding passed the imagery, an beautiful metaphoric stature of this rant I realized three things. My first thought was HA! what you are experiencing it the cry for help...the realization that the shit the feeding us isn't knowledge and the piss we drink ain't wine. * so do we blame the media or the government. at some point in our lives we have to acknowledge you can only be feed when you want to eat. that's my own natural thought my philosophy on this matter.
in pain English.
yes they tell us who we are suppose to be; at times in can be a very faded caricature of life. Often its the exact replica of what we are not. but still we find thugs in tights and prostitution is laced on vinyl records. We also mislead ourselves by acting like we don't know who we are. so we pass to are children, their children, and their classmates. and the we place blame.

Let's just say it makes the Aha Moment feel that much better. however it does need to change.

B.T.W: I fixed some over you grammatical errors. !^^!

[Frickr]

the opservation i have made on this topic, is that the people who seem to fallow every dirrection, and do what they are told without question are more likely to succeed then the free thinkers who question things and think for themselves.

the thing i see as a major problem is that we are starting to loose roots with our natural selves. alot of peoples knowledge about nature is from what they have read in a book, instead of actually going out and experiancing and observing things first hand. for thousands of years, past civilizations would spend the majority of their wealth on monuments that lined up astrologically. these cultures knew just as much as our modern science about how the solar system worked. but you never hear of that in amarican highschool history classes, what you learn in history is primarily from a white european standpoint. these cultures understood that no matter which artificial god we create for ourselves (i.e. the monantary system) the true god, and i dont mean god in the triditional sence, but more or less the base orgin of us, is the hidden powers of the cosmos. there are to many things that we cant explain by science.

another example of how we have declined both with our natural selves, and intellegence is look how we have destroyed this planet. we had the perfect gift yet we disrupt whole ecosystems to pave them in concrete so life doesnt grow, and strip the area of all its natural resources and polute it.

the thing with what i see, is that i can be fixed. people just need to see what they have done and be woken up. and im afraid to say, but i think the only event large enough to disrupt this currant distructive manner in which our time lives in, will be a major catostrophic event. something that will affect everyone equally acrost the bored, not just certain segments of the population such as the poor, or middleclass.

[personified]

I have a time machine at home..

it only travels forword at regular time..

its essentially a cardboard box with the word time machine on the side with a sharpie..

I am building one.

PS
I think forward was spelled incorrectly