HID & LED

[oldmac]

Hey Hermie,

Thanks for correcting me, again ( I really I'm confused easily) about the 50w mini-pro. When I read the 4.2 amps, I just put 50w against 120v (in my head) and got .42 amps, forgot that it was sans power supply or there's more then one way to get to 50watts.

Really nice pics! Looks like the making of something good.

Yeah Weez,

That's what I need to get also "a metric shitload of far red". (but knowing me I'd want to add some other spectrums)

[DreadedHermie]

No amber leds, no UVb, no supermonsterbudliquidlightbatshitthrivearoonie?
Just a splash of blue light, a metric shitload of deep red and some attention, yah?

What looks like a third fan on my lamp is a can of tuna. (It's ballast, moving it around fine-tunes the aim of the light.)

Amber, UV, IR, who needs it??

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[DreadedHermie]

Yikes! Did a little preliminary smoke-test on the items depicted in post #18, resulting in the post above (which seemed to make sense at the time). :stoned:

This strain will meet my medical needs fine. This bud is far more potent than the bag it came from. Like by a factor of 10-20x stronger, subjectively. Wife and I were bouncing off the walls, :yippee::giggity::dance::rastabanna: and ate everything in the refrigerator. My little snack consisted of canned tuna, yogurt, grape nuts, beer, wine, and an omelette. And I'm pretty sure I broke whatever "rules" there may be regarding what kinda stuff can be used as omelette ingredients, too. :eat::glugglug: And, some poker chips seem to be missing. :wtf:


Point is, these plants were started under combination 400W HPS and a Procyon 100. When it started getting too hot I replaced the HPS with a home-brewed led light.

So Horseman, I think your plan is sound. My grow space is similar to yours, and a 400W HPS was just too much heat for that small a closet. A 250 should be just right to pound the plants at fairly close range.

If it's chilly and you can open the room up, the HPS will help heat your living area with a cheery glow. When it's warmer, you may have better results decommissioning the HPS in favor of all-LEDs. Depends on your ability to dispose of waste heat.

I also considered light movers, for my long, narrow space. Definitely worth consideration, but for the expense and installation hassle of a mover, I can build an extra light and get direct, full time coverage. If you can acquire a couple good UFO's to flank your 250, you'd be in good shape. Perhaps a third UFO or a Procyon to substitute for the HPS when weather demands it. You could also substitute CFL's or T-5's for the HPS, but even those approaches created too much heat for me in summer.

So as time passes I'm maturing girls that are closer and closer to "All led grown." And they're getting very potent, more so than I was able to do with the HPS, just because of the heat.

And Horseman, thanks for the kind thought, but I've got a backup power supply or two layin' around somewhere. No need to ship that stuff. It's more "green" to acquire electronics surplus locally. :thumbsup:

[Horsemanrocks]

Looks like Tinybearshopsâ?? computer is downâ?¦..must beâ?¦as they have a problem with answering email. There is another seller with the same UFO with only 3 feedback, 2 of which were purchases, and one was from tinybearshop. Life is longâ?¦Iâ??ll work it out.

This whole thing is making me very paranoid. Every time a Ford Fiesta pulls up behind me I have to ditch emâ??. (Thatâ??s what the pimpinâ?? cops drive in SoCal) With all those radios and Helicopter gunship support and such it takes some hard driving to get clear. I had to drive until dark, ditch the truck and run the last 5 miles through seas of poison ivy and sticker bushes.

Tinybearshop did return an email so I bid on a ufo @ $175â?¦.could save $5 who knows. Found a 250W Lumatek advertised, electronic ballast, bulbs, & hood for $150 (he hasnâ??t returned my call yet)

Itâ??s beginning to warm up in SoCal and I canâ??t seem to get my grow room over 71 degrees. It draws fresh air from under the house (cooler in summer, warmer in winter) so Iâ??m beginning to feel like this Turkey is gonna fly.

Canâ??t easily get the humidity above 25% so a small humidifier is in the near future.

Yeah Hermie excess heat is the game. I have an 80 cfm fan in, and yesterday I put in a â??futureâ?� 4â?� vent so that itâ??ll be there if and when needed. Canâ??t really decide whether Iâ??ll end up needing a vented hood or notâ?¦..whatâ??s your opinion?

Iâ??m wondering what the effects would be if the Hid cycled on and off and left the Led,s on throughout the 12 hr cycle. A little heat managementâ?¦..but then who knows, Iâ??ll know more as things get going whether I have a heat problem or not.

Aloha,
Paniolo Guy

[Weezard]

What looks like a third fan on my lamp is a can of tuna. (It's ballast, moving it around fine-tunes the aim of the light.)

Amber, UV, IR, who needs it??

Marketing, that's who.
Whataya, tryin' ta do hoit de ecomony?!

Now you've done it lad!

Betta buy stock in odor sock!
When da U Foe floggers see dis
an start addin' da missing wavelength to warm lights...
We gonna be bazillionaires, brah!:dance:

Yer killin' me wit wit,

Weeze

[oldmac]

Hey Horse,

I tried to warn you, if Weez came over here to help you.....

we'd all start to hang out on your porch.

[Weezard]

He's only right ya know.
We're an un-ruly lot.

Aloha.
Weeze

[Horsemanrocks]

Lemme get this disclaimer out of the way.
Notice:
This lizard is not an expert at anything but loafing.
I don't have "the one true way" . I'm just an old fart who has plenty of time to think about things and a budget that mothers my need to cobble together my own lights.

Betta buy stock in odor sock!
When da U Foe floggers see dis
an start addin' da missing wavelength to warm lights...
We gonna be bazillionaires, brah!

Maybe it would be easier to simply move to South America, that way at least you could become a Brazilionaire.

This whole home grow thing is taking a lot of time in educating myself in so many aspects and accumulating things that simply arenâ??t available easily. I have assembled a PC board or two in the past. Maybe when the learning curve falls off and I have more time (and the 3 of you are willing) you can guide me through a supplemental panel to add the missing spectrum/s to the ufoâ??s that Iâ??m starting with.

Adios,
Paniolo Guy

[Horsemanrocks]

The three of you are welcome on my porch anytimeâ?¦..and by the way, SoCal was a typo I really meant South Carolina.

[Weezard]

Lemme get this disclaimer out of the way.
Notice:
This lizard is not an expert at anything but loafing.
I don't have "the one true way" . I'm just an old fart who has plenty of time to think about things and a budget that mothers my need to cobble together my own lights.

Albacore!?

Betta buy stock in odor sock!
When da U Foe floggers see dis
an start addin' da missing wavelength to warm lights...
We gonna be bazillionaires, brah!

Maybe it would be easier to simply move to South America, that way at least you could become a Brazilionaire.

LOL

This whole home grow thing is taking a lot of time in educating myself in so many aspects and accumulating things that simply arenâ??t available easily. I have assembled a PC board or two in the past. Maybe when the learning curve falls off and I have more time (and the 3 of you are willing) you can guide me through a supplemental panel to add the missing spectrum/s to the ufoâ??s that Iâ??m starting with.

If ya do it right da first time, you only got one missing wavelength.

An you can get Albacore at da grocery store, yah, brah?

W.

Adios,
Paniolo Guy

Happy trails podner.
Da 'zard