nutes for veg & bloom

[sirruler]

hey peeps im just trying to get some sound advice about nutes. i want to try a soiless mix for my next grow media and was wondering what are some 'good' nutes i can use, one for veg stage and one for bloom?

ive been offered some 'big bud' which ive never used before so i was wondering if i can use this for veg and flowering or will i need to get another type of nute for veg stage? also would i need to use the same brand if i do need another nute?
another quick question i have is about a brand called 'sensi grow' anyone know much about this?
when it comes to nutes im a little confused as there are so many different types and i dont want to get the wrong type because its a lot of money to mess about with.
i do have a little bottle of stuff like supervite but cant quite remember the name of it without looking but would i still be able to use that with other nutes. thanks

sirruler Reviewed by sirruler on 05-13-2009. nutes for veg & bloom hey peeps :) im just trying to get some sound advice about nutes. i want to try a soiless mix for my next grow media and was wondering what are some 'good' nutes i can use, one for veg stage and one for bloom? ive been offered some 'big bud' which ive never used before so i was wondering if i can use this for veg and flowering or will i need to get another type of nute for veg stage? also would i need to use the same brand if i do need another nute? another quick question i have is about a Rating: 5

[LOC NAR on probation]

I can't say about soiless grow I'm full hydro. However same line. Most use Gerneral Hydroponics 3 part fluro series. I hear Sensi is very good too. I use GH but run a modified Lucas formula.

Remember all the top brands are formulated for one thing from the Amsterdam boys. All brands try to match or better each other but are close.

You will need the budblood to use in the first week of flower from then use bigbud as an add on to your nutes for the rest of flower. You really need the two.

It is best not to mix different company nutes. some times with additives you have to but try to stay all one name brand.

[sirruler]

when you say use budblood in the first week of flower do you mean as soon as you switch the lights to 12/12? or as soon as you see the first signs of flower.
i was also going to ask if i can use hydroponic nutes in a soiless mix? i normally just use standard growbags and add nitrogen and a little potash durring flowering and add some supervite all through the flowering stage, seemed to work ok but i want to try doing it properly now.
thanks for your help :thumbsup:

[everTree]

What does budblood due?

[LOC NAR on probation]

It's been awhile since I used budblood and bigbud. I tried it twice with good results, just hard to get for me untill hydro shop just opened near me.
As I remember you used budblood the very first week into 12/12, it kind of sets the plant up to flower faster. Then bigbud finished out the grow untill the flush at the end. Now I'll have to go get some and try it again.

Hydro nutes can be used on any grow. I got my bro using it in and outside with potting soil. His stuff has never looked better but I have to mix it weak.

You will just have to find the mix for soiless. Do a search here cause I have seen alot talking about mixing nutes for your set up and watering schedual.

Oh, no superthive in flower stage. It is only for veg. It kind of messes with the plants and make them think they need to veg more insted of flowering. Lower the nitrogen in flower too. That's a sign for plants to really kick in the buds trying to make seeds for the next generation. Although you don't want seeds, you want plant to keep thinking that to make bigger buds.

[Rusty Trichome]

Superthrive is a concentrated hormone/nitrogen additive. Strictly for veg, as Loc nar mentioned.
Supervite is a multivitamin for humans. It's not a plant suppliment.

Bud Blood is an overpriced additive that you will have to use sparingly. All of that phosphorous and potash can and will throw-off your ph, so pay close attention to plant response after using it.

[Dutch Pimp]

I use to use 20-20-20 during veg...now, I only use a root stimulator after each transplant...(4-10-3)...:thumbsup:...and veg for 30 days..period.

10-52-10 for flowering.

With a 400 watt HID light...it does the deed....:thumbsup:

[sirruler]

thanks guys for all your help i really appreciate it. Rusty i am using Superthrive, i wasnt sure of the name of the stuff off the top of my head so i just made a wild guess but i knew it was super something. i wouldnt give them human vites honist
i must admit i have been feeding them Superthrive durring the flowering stage but i didnt read up enough about it so now thanks to the posts here im a lot wiser :thumbsup: its not cheap stuff and ive already wasted about 100ml of it so from now on i will use it only for veg
my new plants are 3 weeks and 3 days into flower but the buds look tiny but i guess its the cheap soil ive used plus ive been adding some nutes (nitrogen and potash and Superthrive) so i guess im gonna have to flush them out and start over with some decent nutes. good news tho i phoned a good hydroponics shop and asked for some extra expert help with nutes and i have now bought 5 liters of BigBud and 2x 5 liters of veg and bloom nutes (same brand) ive also took the liberty of buying several large bags of soiless mix. seems cheaper to buy it in bulk and saves me running back all the time i just want to do it properly this time and im going to listen carefully to what advice i get on here too.
my present plants i think are fooked, they are tall and spindly with few leaves, some havent even begun to flower yet and they were all clones from the same mother plus started flowering at the same time so i dunno whats going on there thanks again

[Rusty Trichome]

thanks guys for all your help i really appreciate it. Rusty i am using Superthrive, i wasnt sure of the name of the stuff off the top of my head so i just made a wild guess but i knew it was super something. i wouldnt give them human vites honist

Kinda figured, lol.

good news tho i phoned a good hydroponics shop and asked for some extra expert help with nutes and i have now bought 5 liters of BigBud and 2x 5 liters of veg and bloom nutes (same brand)

Good idea on 'branding', but five litres would last me 5 years. Literally. Shake 'em often, keep from heat and freezing. Sell some if you can, it doesn't last forever. (or grow the best looking houseplants on the block, lol)

ive also took the liberty of buying several large bags of soiless mix. seems cheaper to buy it in bulk and saves me running back all the time i just want to do it properly this time and im going to listen carefully to what advice i get on here too.

Is it a peat-based medium? Does it have perlite or vermiculite?

my present plants i think are fooked, they are tall and spindly with few leaves, some havent even begun to flower yet and they were all clones from the same mother plus started flowering at the same time so i dunno whats going on there thanks again

Best experience you can get is hands-on. If you have the room or the time, I'd like to see you pull 'em through, as there is still promise. Worse case scenario...they die, but you get a learning experience that's invaluable. But if it works, then so much the better. Experience and pride of accompolishment are not something you can readily purchase at the hydro store. :thumbsup:

[sirruler]

i am not sure what is in the soiless mix as i just asked for a soiless mix and explained im starting from scratch with little knowledge but he was really helpful and understanding infact he was a great help i will know in 10 days time because he didnt have any BigBud in the store because they have had troubles getting it into the UK from what i was told. i dont mind the wait tho as i still got 5 weeks left with the ones i have going now.

i didnt know that the nutes or boosters didnt last long but its ok tho i know a couple of friends here that also grow the odd one or two so im sure they would buy a little im just waiting for my batteries to recharge for my camera and then i can take a few pics of my plants so i can post them here. i guess its easier to see what someone is talking about when you can actually see it for yourself.

my avatar pic is the same strain i am using now but that was from a previous crop last year, as you can see they done alright but last crop and this crop arnt so good they just wont swell up. on a bright note they are always 'really' strong when smoked so thats a little bonus but its a shame the buds are always small. i will try and get some pics on here tomorrow of this crop. their all under a 600w HPS grolux and a cooled hood in a budbox but the temps are still a little high (82+ degrees) i got a small fan going in there (25watt) but it doesnt cool it much. im just gonna keep my fingers crossed now and hope for the best