Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
To whom it may concern;
including "mature phase" we know as Flowering. IMHO a plant needs a dark photoperiod of at least some duration during this time. But not when it is in VEGATIVE state.
Sorry, but I'm not one to jump to conclusions just because there is a lack of specific "immature stage" papers involving side-by-side comparisons of the two techniques.

Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
OK Rusty, you did not want to read up on this, but Ital at least did.
I beg your fucking pardon...? I've been reading up on this shit for years, and have found nothing saying that 24 hours of daylight is an acceptable long-term (months, years, longer...) strategy of keeping cannabis genetics pure. There is nothing available to date that shows effects, such as genetic changes, (or not) nutritional changes (or not) and resultant developmental differences, (or not) size and structure of the flowers, (buds) psychotropic effects from a different plant-growth strategy...none of which is covered in the above-cited work. You are really trying to tell me that a cause (no darkness) has no effect? Interesting concept, as everything has a cause and effect. Would be quite a development were all those that use 24/0 schedule had their strains turn autoflower on 'em sometime dowwn the line, since darkness "wasn't necessary".

I am curious what latent changes happen when you start fooling with overclocking a plants metabolic processes, but not curious enough to consider an unresolved technique as completely safe for my cannabis. Were we talking gourds or lettuce, I would care-less about it's genetic responses, but some of us actually prefer not to fall for old wives tales, snake oil, or any other questionable technique. Not at all against trying something new, but not at the expense of risking the genetics of the only meds I take for my ailment.

Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
I previously mentioned the human tendicy to "humanize" our plants, project our feelings and needs onto them.
Well, I guess that's the difference in our approaches. You try to keep from treating them like humans, I try to treat them like the medicinal plant that they are, and am not willing to take unnecessary risks because some old fart pretends that lack of pheno-specific evidence is to be assumed to be fact.

Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
This topic and others like it could be great to discuss, if you and I and others here could get less emotional and personnel with our debates and try to hold discussions instead. I'm willing to try and do better in the future.
Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
OK Rusty, you did not want to read up on this, but Ital at least did.
Yeah. Sure. Whatever.