yup, I see your point, the LED could probably work excellent in a SOG-type garden ... I'm waiting for the LED that will allow me to grow my conventional plant (5-6 feet, multi-branched) just my thing, I like to see them grow out ... the ultimate LEDs are coming, it's only a matter of time ... I would imagine the prices are starting to come down, too ... rumors have it, some huge utility increases are headed our way, we may all wind up with LEDs, soon :smokin: