Why the Volcano is Unmatched

[FourTwenty4Life]

I know this question has come up a lot, "why is the Volcano the 'best' and most expensive vaporizer?" so I wrote an e-mail to Storz & Bickel asking them to compare it to other vapes like the V Tower Extreme and Purple Days in particular. Here is the response I got from S&B:



Dear Volcano Owner ,



thank you for your mail and thank you for the enthusiasm for our product.

We are all pleased, that you are happy with our VOLCANO â?? that is most important!



As the VOLCANO company, of course, we always monitor the market for competitors, but luckily there is no serious competitor so far.

We are very proud of our products and we can honestly say that there is no better vaporizer on the market.

I note down some arguments in favour of the VOLCANO (hoping it does not sound too blatant, but it is all true and honest)



You were asking for the differences to other products, generally the VOLCANO is made in Germany and it is of outstanding quality that last for years. (I donâ??t think that any lifetime warranties (V Tower ) are serious, but time will tellâ?¦)



The VOLCANO is built as a medical grade device, with pinpoint accuracy. The temperature accuracy of the CLASSIC or DIGIT is unmatched by other products.

The set up for effective vaporization requires a strong pump for constant air flow, a heat exchanger to heat up air to the desired temperature and of course accurate temperature control.

Please see http://www.storz-bickel.com/download...r_Digit_A3.pdf for a technical drawing.

Whip systems are not providing a constant air flow, leading to the danger of increased temperature and finally combustion, because as you suck from the whip, temperature rises (you might know from a cigarette: when you inhale, it starts glowing > that means temperature goes up). You might attach a silicone tube to the EASY VALVE filling chamber (= whip system), but this is not as good as the balloon system. A whip system if used strong or long enough always bears the danger of self-combustion of the plant material. The balloon has the advantage that during vaporization you are not in contact with heat or electricity.



Pumping the enriched air into the balloon guarantees that air flow is constant and temperature too. All the â??balloon systemâ?� I know working with a fan (= not enough pressure) instead of a good pump, so in most of the cases performance is unsatisfying and vaporization is ineffective. Talking about temperature, for connoisseurs a reliable temperature is of importance, because with a certain temperature you might just get the â??portfolio of compounds out of your herbs that you like. In the medical research this is also a very important point as they want to have controlled temperature to be able to have reliable parameters for their studies. The VOLCANO as the standard for scientific research is a good testimonial too, I believe.

I canâ??t really tell, if the Purple Days is more effective, as I must admit that I donâ??t know the product, but I assume that there would be more â??spread the wordâ?� testimonials if it is outstanding.



I hope that this a proposal that meets your interests.



Kind regards from Germany





Michael Schwarz

Marketing Manager



STORZ & BICKEL GmbH Co. KG
Rote Strasse 1
78532 Tuttlingen
Germany



[email protected]
Tel: +49-7461-969707-0
Fax: +49-7461-969707-7
www.storz-bickel.com


Kommanditgesellschaft, Sitz Tuttlingen
Amtsgericht HRA 451029
Geschäftsführer: Markus Storz, Jürgen Bickel

:hippy: you're welcome

FourTwenty4Life Reviewed by FourTwenty4Life on 05-08-2009. Why the Volcano is Unmatched I know this question has come up a lot, "why is the Volcano the 'best' and most expensive vaporizer?" so I wrote an e-mail to Storz & Bickel asking them to compare it to other vapes like the V Tower Extreme and Purple Days in particular. Here is the response I got from S&B: Dear Volcano Owner , thank you for your mail and thank you for the enthusiasm for our product. Rating: 5

[lwien123]

It's a marketing pitch made by a marketing manager. I have no doubt that if you contact any other marketing manager from any other vape manufacturer, that they too could come up with some very convincing arguments about why their particular vape is better than the competition.

I'd much rather count on user testimonials as well as the challenges to those testimonials, than anything that a marketing manager would say, for it is their job to market their particular product in the most favorable light possible while setting themselves apart from their competition.

With that being said, I still think the 'Cano is a great vape. I just don't fall for the hype that it's the best. But then, I don't think ANY vape is the best.

[FourTwenty4Life]

It's a marketing pitch made by a marketing manager. I have no doubt that if you contact any other marketing manager from any other vape manufacturer, that they too could come up with some very convincing arguments about why their particular vape is better than the competition.

I'd much rather count on user testimonials as well as the challenges to those testimonials, than anything that a marketing manager would say, for it is their job to market their particular product in the most favorable light possible while setting themselves apart from their competition.

With that being said, I still think the 'Cano is a great vape. I just don't fall for the hype that it's the best. But then, I don't think ANY vape is the best.

I agree about the user testimonials and such. I just wanted to show their response because they can explain more of the technical aspects that I'm not so good as describing. While he IS a marketing manager, that doesn't discredit the facts that he mentions in the e-mail. It's just nice to have it explained by someone who actually knows the makeup of the product and everything instead of some random users arguing about it on forums. All vapes are good in their own right because of the nature of what they do. I can't wait to get my iOlite one day for portable vaping. However it seems that according to S&B, no one touches them yet in terms of vapor efficiency and performance.:hippy:

[lwien123]

However it seems that according to S&B, no one touches them yet in terms of vapor efficiency and performance.:hippy:

Yeah, but that's the point. I think if you asked the marketing manager of any of the more popular vapes out there, that they would all say the same thing, that is, that the vape that they represent can't be touched in terms of vapor efficiency and performance.

As an ex-marketing manager, I just have to take whatever any of them say with a grain of salt.

Let us know how you like the Iolite when you get it. It's gotten some great reviews.

[FourTwenty4Life]

Yeah, but that's the point. I think if you asked the marketing manager of any of the more popular vapes out there, that they would all say the same thing, that is, that the vape that they represent can't be touched in terms of vapor efficiency and performance.

As an ex-marketing manager, I just have to take whatever any of them say with a grain of salt.

Let us know how you like the Iolite when you get it. It's gotten some great reviews.

You gave me a good idea. I should e-mail the makers of some other vapes and ask them to compare it to the Volcano. I loved the fact that S&B described the technical aspects of what makes their vaporizer what it is. I now understand how it works a little better and that other vapes don't have the same makeup. So if I can get the other vape manufacturers to explain the technical aspects of why their vape is superior or just as good as the Volcano, I can post the results.:hippy:

[lwien123]

Gotta question for ya 420, and I'm not being facetious when I ask this, for I really have no idea. Can you put just 0.025g in a 'Cano, and get 4 good tasty hits from it?

[FourTwenty4Life]

Gotta question for ya 420, and I'm not being facetious when I ask this, for I really have no idea. Can you put just 0.025g in a 'Cano, and get 4 good tasty hits from it?

Yes. One of these days in the 'High on Vapor' thread I might post some pictures to show you.:hippy:

[lwien123]

You gave me a good idea. I should e-mail the makers of some other vapes and ask them to compare it to the Volcano. I loved the fact that S&B described the technical aspects of what makes their vaporizer what it is. I now understand how it works a little better and that other vapes don't have the same makeup. So if I can get the other vape manufacturers to explain the technical aspects of why their vape is superior or just as good as the Volcano, I can post the results.:hippy:

Good idea. But just keep in mind that, for the most part, you will be comparing the marketing expertise of a particular manager rather than comparing the particular virtues of the different vapes.

But still, an interesting exercise.

[lwien123]

Yes. One of these days in the 'High on Vapor' thread I might post some pictures to show you.:hippy:

Great. I'd love to see it. I know that in whip based vapes, unless you can cover the screen, it doesn't work too well and 0.025g just doesn't fully cover those screens.

[FourTwenty4Life]

Good idea. But just keep in mind that, for the most part, you will be comparing the marketing expertise of a particular manager rather than comparing the particular virtues of the different vapes.

But still, an interesting exercise.

That is why I will ask them to specifically mention the technical aspects that sets their vape apart from others. That's exactly what I asked of S&B, to describe the technical workings of their Volcano and how it compared to other vapes such as the V Tower Extreme or Purple Days. I am looking forward to reading what they have to say.:hippy: