cactus cuttings

[EverydayJunglist]

does anyone knoe how many 12' cuttings it takes?I've heard half,i've heard one,i've heard two.And mescaline isn't something i would wanna take too big of a dose of.

EverydayJunglist Reviewed by EverydayJunglist on 04-06-2005. cactus cuttings When websites sell you cactus cuttings, are they 15 years old or whatever the cutoff is? And do you just eat em, or is it better to make tea? How much is enough for one person? Rating: 5

[Dr Timothy Leary]

we jus got about 4 buttons each of peyote...mashed it all down, mixed the slushy residue with lemon juice to mask the taste and also kinda stop the stomach pain, and it all worked fine, in about 2hours...me n my m8s were baked lol, i felt like i was an african land crab for about 5hours tho..kept walkin sideways n making claw things with my fingers haha

[EverydayJunglist]

nah not peyote bro.I mean san pedro cuttings.They are legal.I live in ny and there is no cacti here.

[andruejaysin]

1 12 inch cutting if it's good stuff. You can eat it, but that's alot of fucking cactus. Tea is easier, still kinda nasty, but worth it. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter, it is not a controlled substance ( got a list right in front of me ) Not sure if it's found in banana peals (kinda dought it) but even if it is I don't think it will cross the blood/brain barrier. Could be wrong on that. But I do know you CAN extract mecaline with chemical you get from maybe not a grocery store, but wal-mart or a hardware store. Naoh is a fancy name for lye. I've done an acid/base (which is how you extract mescaline) a few hundred times using Red Devil lye. Not with mescaline, but extraction of a freebase as the hcl salt, not complicated, a thousand tweaked out morons do it every day, and most of them have absolutely no understanding of the chemistry.

[Dick Justice]

Okay, I'm buying a mature, multi-headed lophophora peyote thing. www.divinecactus.com .

What's the best way to get flesh doses with this? Keep in mind I don't want to totally butcher the plant. And can you smoke the powdered skin?

[Nosehit]

But recrystalizing the mesc. out of the cactus you need reagents. Like NaOH and shit you can't by at the store. Not only that there are other compounds in the peyote that act synergistically with the mesc. Thats okay though You are basically right it is a waste of time. You might as well just buy a couple doses.

Actually you can buy NaOH at the hardware store it used for cleaning driveways and shit like that. I've done a couple extractions but I always use lab quality chemicals. Both times were successful but not something I'm real comfortable with.

[Delta9]

the only reason I think dopamine is in the peels is because i was reading research papers and many of them happened to be on banana, and the liquid-chromatograms showed retention times indicating that there was the amine present. It dosen't really matter though I just thought it was interesting. I found it in the paper:

Riggin, R.M.; McCarthy, M.J.; Kissinger, P.T. "Identification of Salsolinol a Major Dopamine Metabolite in Banana", J. Agric. Food. Chem. Vol. 24. No 1.1975. P 189-191.

I read on the net that dopamine injections would boost the mesc. content of a cactus.

[Delta9]

What hardwear store can you get NaOH from? Home-Depot sucks? Vitamin suppliments have compounds in them too. They usually have sugar and other stuff in them but they might be able to be separeated. Like the steric acid could be extracted with toluene. and you would have the suppliment minus the steric acid. I don't know about the other impurites like TiO2. The TiO2 might be able to be eliminated electrolytically, but you need to figure out how to make a electrochemical cell which could be done but it would be a pain in the ass.

An Iodide suppliment might work to test for chlorine in bleaching powder. If you made a solution of bleaching powder and water and added starch and heated it so the starch dissolved you could react the solution with the iodide in the suppliment and if there was Cl2 in the bleaching powder it would follow:

Cl2 + 2I- ------> 2Cl- + I2

The iodine producted would then react with the starch to form a blue color indicating the presence of Cl2 in the bleaching powder. From the bleaching powder you could then make chloroform. It would just be a good lab exercise.
The chloroform could then be used in other extraction partitions.

[Delta9]

I would be useful to purify compounds cause then you would have starting materials. Like magnesium to make a gringard reagent.

Like if you could split apart diphenylhydramine, then you would have a alkyl amine.

Diphenylhydramine + something ---------> (phenyl)2OH + [(CH3)2]N(CH2CH3)

The [(CH3)2]N(CH2CH3) might be able to be formed into a gringard with a purified magnesium suppliment someshow that could be used to add to a carboxylic acid derivative to from another amine that would be closer to the product. It is a stupid idea, but a synthetic pathroutes are always useful.

[Delta9]

But for a gringard to work you would need diethyl ether, which you'd have to either buy or make. I doubt they sell ether at the hardwearstore, so you'd have to synthesize it from acetone and concentrated sulfuric acid. But where do you get sulfiric acid? Given that a car battery is expensive and would contain impurites it would not be feasable. You could make sulfuric by burning sulfur but on a small scale it would be difficult because it would be a gas phase reaction. But if really determined You could use a disposable oxygen tank from the hardwear store to react burned sulfur with the oxygen to form sulfurtrioxide.

2[SO2] (g) + O2 (g) -------> 2[SO3] (g)

The sulfur would have to be burned in a closed vessel and then the oxygen would
have to be pumed through the vessel mixing with the sulfur smoke into a long hose where the oxygen and sulfer dioxide would react to form the sulfur trioxide gas. The hose would need to then lead into another container with a small amount of water in it where the gases could be compressed and allowed to react for a while. then the pressurized vessel would have to be shaken for a very long time to form H2SO4.

SO3(g) +H2O(l) -----------> H2SO4.

But this would be rather painstaking making only minut fractions at a time and a catalyst would probably be necesary.