Pale Droopy Leaves? Any advice appreciated.

[razzapiggy]

Strain is BlackBerry. Grown in SunShine with r\o water, adding cal\mag. Curious what you guys think.

razzapiggy Reviewed by razzapiggy on 05-02-2009. Pale Droopy Leaves? Any advice appreciated. Strain is BlackBerry. Grown in SunShine with r\o water, adding cal\mag. Curious what you guys think. Rating: 5

[razzapiggy]

more information:

pH 5.9

sunshine mix

botanicare pure blend pro

add cal mag about 1.5 ml per gallon since sunshine already has cal in it

r\h is usually about 40-50%

plants are like 3-4 weeks old, stunted growth lately

ppm around 850

r\o water

8 inch exhaust out... 6 inch in

several fans blowing on them.... haven't really had problems in the past too too much

[lee221186]

i got this problem as well m8. leaves going pale and then yellow and the hole plant is drooping

[razzapiggy]

post some pictures and maybe we can compare?

I am thinking it's N.

Do you have any curling of your leaves... a bit like claws clenching their fists? I'm utterly confused and would LOVE some help here. My plants aren't happy, someone around here HAS to know what this is.

[warfrat73]

Certainly no expert here, but it does occur that it's kind of hard to make a diagnosis based on pics with the HPS on since it shifts the color spectrum and makes everything look pale. In the meantime I've found this page reasonably useful, it's posted in a number of places Marijuana Plant Abuse... good luck

[phatsesh101]

there is a form around here fill it oput and youll get more looks and bettr reasponses

but with what you said so far sounds like you could be overwatering or maybe its getting to hot or what # sunshine mix , is ur oh 59 going in or coming out souds kinda low for gowing in since peat is naturally aciddic i use #4 and water usually between 65-68 but thats it till i see a form

[lee221186]

they are starting to perk up now because i swiched lights from a orange light to a hps blue spectrum bulb 400w

[Rusty Trichome]

Do you have any curling of your leaves... a bit like claws clenching their fists?

That is typically an out-of-range ph indicator, not nitrogen def.

more information: pH 5.9

Too low for a soil grow. Ph best kept between 6.3 and 6.8 for a soil grow. Which sunshine mix? (there's a dozen or so, isn't there?) Some of their mixes have a nororiously low ph.

add cal mag about 1.5 ml per gallon since sunshine already has cal in it

You can overdo CalMag, and using at full strength is a waste, unless plant is fully-developed and healthy enough to make use of the overabundance of calcium and magnesium.

r\o water

Why...tapwater no good? (just curious)

[VapedG13]

I tell anyone who has drooping leaves and yellowing from the bottom up to pop out their rootball and look to see if you can see the roots on the bottom and sides of the ball....if you can you need a bigger potter...it takes all but 1 min to check the rootball

[razzapiggy]

That is typically an out-of-range ph indicator, not nitrogen def.


Too low for a soil grow. Ph best kept between 6.3 and 6.8 for a soil grow. Which sunshine mix? (there's a dozen or so, isn't there?) Some of their mixes have a nororiously low ph.


You can overdo CalMag, and using at full strength is a waste, unless plant is fully-developed and healthy enough to make use of the overabundance of calcium and magnesium.


Why...tapwater no good? (just curious)

I am growing in SunShine#4 which is soiless, so I keep my pH according to what you are supposed to with Soil-less mixes, 5.7-6.2

SunShine is *Not* soil.

Not over-doing the CalMag, I agree the full strength is an absolute, I do about 20% of what is recommended and have had no problems in the past.

So, none of you have any ideas eh? My pH stick works fine... they really don't look super happy...

I use r\o because my tap water comes out at like 350 PPM and I figured r\o would be better though I haven't really noticed much of a difference.