Irydyum I don't get your point. Are you saying that you somehow know what caused that plant to go hermie? Maybe it was genetic. Maybe it was because I stressed it by trying to train it in flowering. Thanks to the advice of HeadShake I won't be trying that again. That was good critique on my grow, it was helpful and informative. :thumbsup:

If you know the answer to this question, then tell me, was it due to genetics or stress? Also if you somehow know that bit of info please tell me how you know. I am trying to decide if I should keep that mother or not.

I am simply documenting what I'm doing and where my logic is coming from. The reason I say the weed was grown by someone who knows what they were doing is because it tasted great, smelled great, looked great, got me high as fuck, it was trimmed right, dried and cured right, in short, it was weed of a quality you do not produce if you aren't taking the time, effort, and have the experience to do things right. BTW it had maybe 12-15 seeds in the half-o. And it was from a male somewhere, not a hermie, because about half of the plants I grew were full-on males.

If my techniques aren't valid I would like input on that, and the reason why. And I don't think complaining about the poor genetics that bagseed growers encounter is very helpful to anybody. Okay, buying seeds is not an option for me, either financially or from having a safe place to ship it to. Same goes for lighting, nutes, containers, odor control... there is no grow shop and I don't want to ship this stuff in. The choices here are Lowe's, Home Depot, Target, and Wal-Mart. And I have a financial problem too, so maybe my shit isn't elite like yours. Does that mean that I don't know I could have a better grow if I start with some sweet-ass known female Purple Urkle clones from San Fuckingcisco and used 1000w HID lighting and a fancy carbon scrubber, maybe some thermal shielding to avert the FLIR? Of course I know that, and I know I'll have better yields if I veg my clones a few weeks before putting them in flower. I put them under 12/12 directly from cutting for a certain reason, which was to get rid of the males quick so I don't have to fuck around with them and risk spilling pollen. Now I am just finishing out the flowering of the females so I can figure out which plants are doing the best with what I can give them. So far I have a female which has a gorgeous little bud on her, and I guarantee you it's going to smoke great! Right now I think she's so good I'll never let her get lost, and I guarantee you at some point I'm going to cross her with herself so I can put the seeds in a vault somewhere. So no joke that I named her. Wow that is so dumb and frivolous, isn't it? Especially to someone like you whose plants already had names you didn't even have to think of. Who knows, maybe one day you will be buying the strain Audrey IV and telling some noobs how no wonder they got herms because bagseed is no match for Audrey IV. And guess what? It will be a strain that thrives in low lighting, has a low odor profile, clones as easy as pie, and is resistant to going herm. Who knows maybe when I'm developing the strain I will use herm resistance as a trait I select for!!

I have to use seeds from the best seeded weed I get my hands on and pick the best plants from that. And the best seeded bags aren't crazy-ass chock full of seeds. Those seedy bags are all field-grown sativas, an example of which can be seen in various pictures in this grow log. And unless something real special happens with her flowering she is gonna get composted. In fact I think she is gone tomorrow if I still feel the same way. So far she has just continued stretching into my light fixture and not flowering except preflowers. Although it has only been two or three days since she showed sex.

The thing is, I only have four mothers and good seeds are hard for me to get a hold of, clones are impossible to find which makes it more important that I don't compost a great plant by something simple like not finishing out flowering to do a taste test before deciding. So if my herm was caused by stress there's a chance she's still a keeper. This little incident just means I won't know that for a few more weeks. Sure bending her was a noob mistake. Does that show enough humility, for me to admit I made a mistake?

You try to stick with facts, not speculations or hypotheses. Well where do you think your facts came from? They were already known from time immemorial? I bet at some point they weren't facts at all, they were just speculations and hypotheses until someone decided "Hey, I'm gonna find a way to determine the truth about this", and they did experiments to find out. I've heard that chlorine in tapwater will hurt your plants. It sounds plausible. Some people here may swear it will damage your plants. I gave half my plants tapwater and half of them springwater. At least in my setup there is NO difference I can tell so far. To me it is a fact that tapwater does not hurt your plants. My water is also very very hard and very alkaline. Apparently that isn't causing a problem as compared to my springwater plants. Maybe with a better setup, or with better genetics there could be a difference, but if I have someone new who is using soil and CFL and wants to know if tapwater is okay, I am going to tell him that it's just fine for that situation, because for me there was no discernible difference. So is that speculation and hypothesis? It WAS before I tested it.

Maybe you should have read more of my posts before criticising what you consider to be arrogance toward the wizened sages, and belittle the fact that I named a plant, and to try to bring in Headshake who I know has some REAL wisdom and great advice to anyone who is really trying to work hard and find the answers on their own. But I am pretty sure he won't go for your bait. I guess everyone here ISN'T like you, though we all want the best possible smoke. I happen to also want to know what factors DON'T harm your smoke, and what factors DON'T help your smoke. That is why sometimes I do things that I have HEARD are bad. Where's the study? Who has tried it on some plants and compared them side by side?

Well, I ENJOY that process, and I learned from this little grow that with MG time-release soil, CFL lighting, small pots and small plants, and whatever seeds I managed to get, using bottled water instead of tap offers no benefit. Maybe I will do it again but using all clones from the same plant instead from different plants. And if I offend you by "re-inventing the wheel" instead of doing whatever you tell me to do, then you have a thin skin.