Problem in soil! Help Please!

[daveted420]

H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero
C=Answer if you grow coco
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


indoor
Soil
Fox Farm ocean forest soil, with some miracle grow perlite mixed in. 80/20 probably
Runoff Ph 6.5
RO Water
New Clones, planted Saturday 25th of april
No fertilizers added
400 Watt MH 2 ft from plants
average 74 degrees in room
24 Hours light
Window Fan


Alright, so here is the problem. I just picked up 10 clones from a club on saturday. They were in rockwool. I came home and put them into the soil, and they started to show problems the next day. Tips on some are burning, and they all are sorta lacking life and curling under. (see pics) All of the clones are flawless when i got them, and full of life. Please help!

daveted420 Reviewed by daveted420 on 04-29-2009. Problem in soil! Help Please! H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero C=Answer if you grow coco S=Answer if you grow traditional soil L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix) R=Answer if you grow in RockWool T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol! Rating: 5

[daveted420]

more pics

[daveted420]

can anyone help me please? I'm desperate! Thanks in advance!

[Mr. Clandestine]

Were the clones hardened off when you bought them? If they weren't, and hadn't yet developed many roots, you might consider getting them under a makeshift humidity dome for a little bit longer. They look to me like they're drying out and not taking in much moisture through the roots. I'd also back the light off a bit more, since unrooted clones really don't need intense light... just enough to establish a good root system. And also be sure that you don't let the rockwool cubes dry out entirely, which can happen quickly under a MH. That's often a death sentence for new clones.

[Divestoned]

Switching a plant from hydro to dirt and vice-versa,will always cause a lil shock.For one thing the ph changes dramatically. back your lights off a lil bit,mix plain water and set ph to 6.8.Then give it a few day's for them to get adjusted to the new environment.

Dive:stoned:

[killerweed420]

Yeah it looks like they just got stressed from trasnplanting. Try picking up some B1 plant shock additive. Most any hardware store carries it. Or even superthrive if you can't find the B1.

[daveted420]

Were the clones hardened off when you bought them? If they weren't, and hadn't yet developed many roots, you might consider getting them under a makeshift humidity dome for a little bit longer. They look to me like they're drying out and not taking in much moisture through the roots. I'd also back the light off a bit more, since unrooted clones really don't need intense light... just enough to establish a good root system. And also be sure that you don't let the rockwool cubes dry out entirely, which can happen quickly under a MH. That's often a death sentence for new clones.

The clones were pretty well rooted when i got them. (roots poking out of the rockwool and such) I'll try backing off the light for sure, and see how it goes

[daveted420]

Switching a plant from hydro to dirt and vice-versa,will always cause a lil shock.For one thing the ph changes dramatically. back your lights off a lil bit,mix plain water and set ph to 6.8.Then give it a few day's for them to get adjusted to the new environment.

Dive:stoned:

so clones rooted in rockwool into soil is considered switching from hydro to dirt?

thanks to those of you that have responded so far! I'll keep you posted for sure.

-davey

[Divestoned]

so clones rooted in rockwool into soil is considered switching from hydro to dirt?

-davey

Well sure it is...rockwool isn't dirt..and has no nute's of it's own...so it must be fed with hydro nute's,which run a ph of 5.8 instead of the 6.8 that dirt like's.We have no idea what the ppm of the nute's they were using..but can guess that it was a lil lower than the nute's in a brand new bag of ocean forest soil.Therefor we can assume it's going thru a lil bit of shock and prolly a lil bit of difference in the amount of heat/light they are recieving.

Dive:stoned:

[daveted420]

Well sure it is...rockwool isn't dirt..and has no nute's of it's own...so it must be fed with hydro nute's,which run a ph of 5.8 instead of the 6.8 that dirt like's.We have no idea what the ppm of the nute's they were using..but can guess that it was a lil lower than the nute's in a brand new bag of ocean forest soil.Therefor we can assume it's going thru a lil bit of shock and prolly a lil bit of difference in the amount of heat/light they are recieving.

Dive:stoned:

that makes sense 100% thanks! You've eased my mind a bit, for that I'm grateful. I'll keep an eye on them and post back soon.