white widow mutation

[Pepdog07]

Whats up all! im new here and love to use the site for info. on growing. Ben at it a couple years now but always with clones. Anyhow, I ordered 10 White widow seeds from Amsterdammarijuanaseeds with 20 free. got the seeds within 6 days, aamazin!:thumbsup:

So germinated 3 white widow and 4 mystery seeds in a cup of of water for 24 hrs. then thru em in a paper towel. Next day I had sprouts so I put em Jiffy 7 pellet under 1000watt (all I had at the time) hung 7 ft. under 18-6 light for two days. Needless to say they stretched, so I bought some flourescents and hung em about 3 or 4in. above canopy. by this time first true leaves were appearing except the White widow seedlings all had some sort of mutation. One side of the first true leaves (serrated) wasn't growing as fast, was significantly shorter than the other side and didnt display the knife like point of a normal blade but rather round or square at the tip. Ive never grown from seed and have never seen anything like it.

My guess would be weak seeds or a characteristic of the starain at that age. They're a lil over two weeks old now and the ww have grown but has the same characteristics. I hope they grow out of it. Anyone who has seen this or can tell me whats goin on would be greatly appreciated.


Check the pics. 4 pics of the 3 ww seedlings(ww labels) and one mystery seed

Pepdog07 Reviewed by Pepdog07 on 04-26-2009. white widow mutation Whats up all! im new here and love to use the site for info. on growing. Ben at it a couple years now but always with clones. Anyhow, I ordered 10 White widow seeds from Amsterdammarijuanaseeds with 20 free. got the seeds within 6 days, aamazin!:thumbsup: So germinated 3 white widow and 4 mystery seeds in a cup of of water for 24 hrs. then thru em in a paper towel. Next day I had sprouts so I put em Jiffy 7 pellet under 1000watt (all I had at the time) hung 7 ft. under 18-6 light for two Rating: 5

[Pepdog07]

come on people I know ya,ll been looking at my thread with no replys! Whats going on i even posted another thread with the same name but with the Grow guide probems list and still nothing! Is there really that many poeple out there that have never seen ANYTHING like my mutated plant in the picture?????

[Dutch Pimp]

well...that was 5 days ago....what do they look like now?

lots of seedlings are runts/deformed at first. the NEW growth is the important thing...:thumbsup:...old leaves ...are old news

[disrupt86]

so many factors are left out.gentic mutation could be one of them,who knows.for better responses go to the search button and look up trouble shooting form,fill it out and post it here.this is your only real chance of getting an answer,my guess just off the top of my head is the soil your using is to hot.however with out this form you s.o.l ...good luck, the sooner you fill it out the sooner you will get your responses.:thumbsup:

[fluid69]

well...that was 5 days ago....what do they look like now?

lots of seedlings are runts/deformed at first. the NEW growth is the important thing...:thumbsup:...old leaves ...are old news

I agree with pimp, besides it's not going to grow in exact mirror of it's self.

[Dutch Pimp]

I highly recommend: small 4 inch pots or 16 oz. cups for seedlings....and T-12 floro tubes (6500k) lighting. T-12's won't burn seedlings and need to be within 1-2 inches of the seedling tops....:thumbsup:...the first 3 weeks...IMO.

First pic: one week..4 inch pots... Second pic: 6 inch pots/week#3...... Third pic: comparison.

[Pepdog07]

Right on guys, Thanx for the responses! I will post new pictures and info. soon

[Pepdog07]

Ok guys and gals heres some new pics and info. I haven't bought a water ph tester yet but i figure a inline filter that filters out cholorine,calcium, and all other chemicals should mean somewhat close to ideal. I will also mention that the ph in my soil is about 6.4 to6.9. Two of the WW sort of came out of it, but but the one runt looks frickin weird,lol! Oh and I water every 2 two days or when soil looks dry a couple in. down.

H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero
C=Answer if you grow coco
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


E-indoor
E-Fox Farms Ocean forest potting soil
E-Jiffy seven pellets
CSL-Soil type/brand
HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type
SCL-1/3 Happy frog soil conditioner and brick of coco coir
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH- not sure
E- inline water filter from home depot, hooked up to tap water spicket
E-
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-couple days over 3 weeks old
E-Fox farms grow
E-1 tablspoon to gallon of water fed one time
E- 1000 watt. mh/hps(mh bulb in socket) 34in. above canopy
E- 75-82f day 62-70f nite
HD-Reservoir temperature
E-35-65% humid.
E-Lighting schedule 18-6
E- exhaust- inline fan hung on ceiling; ducting to rectanglular hole in house siding. intake= other side of room with rectangular hole cut out with a forty five metal fitting. Ducting off the end draped to floor. Vornado fan drilled to ceiling
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution? Ph corrected water until pellets extended than squeezed excesse water out

White widow are marked with white sticks that have"WW" other two are my healthiest mystery strains. any guess's on those?