California Orange Bud CFL grow

[syde00]

syde00, it looks like I gave you some bad advice - my sincere apologies, and my sincere thanks to JG for spotting the issue and providing much better, experienced advice. I've learned something here as well - ask more questions before providing advice and if I am unsure of an answer, ensure I provide my advice with a grain of salt.

Best of luck in your continued grow, my friend!

no worries at all :thumbsup:

it was actually the way i was leaning myself at the time too

[headshake]

i would stay away from hanna meters. i've heard a lot of bad things. stinky used to recommend milwaukee.

a good way to tell if your plants need watering is to pick up your pots by the rim, with your index finger and thumb on both hands. (think of a diamond if you weren't holding the pot.) bounce the pot up and down and get a feel for the weight of it. do this when they are dry and after you just waterd. this will help you get a better feel for when your plants need to be watered/fed.


-shake

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Syde,

Thanks for the kind words, I had to put that first sentence in due to I have been blasted too many times by know it all newbies that it gets frustrating at times. It is my way of heading it off if it may happen with "think before you respond".

But glad you took that advice, and I will keep checking in to see how things are going.

BOL
JG

[syde00]

shake - thanks for the tips on watering and the ph meter

JG - yeah I know how it goes... I can't say that I haven;t done the same myself... i'm new to these boards but i've seen that type of behaviour in many other places before I;m here to learn, and when I can, help others with what I know too, so its all good :jointsmile:

[syde00]

Alright, got a couple of questions for those of you with more experience than me (which is probably all of you lol)

1. Detecting a plant that is root bound... like i mentioned before, one of the detection methods I have read here is looking for roots growing out the bottom of the pots... my plants are in 1 gal pots at the moment (well, slightly less than 1gal), the plants are only about 4" tall at the moment, so these potters should be good to hold them until about 12" (going by the guideline of 1 foot per gallon of soil).... now for a few days already, i have had visible roots at the drain holes of the pots, some of which are starting to try pretty hard to come out of the pot... i can;t imagine that my 4" plant could have this pot root bound already, but here are a couple pics... pic #1 is the plant from the top so you have an idea of how large it is, and pic #2and 3 is some of its roots coming out the bottom... i know its not excessive, but basically, how much is enough? sorry, i know pic #2 is a little bit blurry, but holding the plant in one hand and the cam in the other didn;t really give me a whole lot of stability lol anyhow, i've seen the roots at the bottom for a few days, but the last day or 2 there have been more and more coming quicker... and if this is going to be a problem soon, i need to get ready for it (I haven;t actualy sourced any 3gal pots locally yet... best i have come across so far is some 1.8gal pots, but i'd rather jump straight to 3gal pots just to avoid one of the transplants... but i;m willing to do the 1.8gal ones if that is a better idea.

is cali orange perhaps just a strain that goes insane with root growth and i need to step up the transplant schedule because of this?

2. as you can also see in pic #1, some of my leaves from the over-watering are still quite curly... will these leaves straighten themselves out at some point? (ie. when the soil has gone through a proper dry cycle) or will those leaves stay like that forever? the newer growth seems to not be curling at all, so i;m happy about that right now.

3. pic #4 is a shot of one of the plants first true leaves... it seems to be *very slowly* developing the yellow/brown spots you can see in in the pic... is this a problem? or is it simply old growth that the plant doesn;t need/want anymore and is basically slowly dying off normally? or is this possibly some kind of nute/micro-nute deficiency?

TIA!

[syde00]

ok... so my roots problem seems considerably worse today... i can;t explain it... everything i have read says about 1 gal of soil to 1 foot of plant height to avoid a plant becoming root bound, and that a sign of becoming root bound is the the roots growing out the bottom.... this plant is roughly 4" in height, and well... look at the pic.

my thoughts are that either this strain goes insane with roots, or that my soil over the last 4 days became incredibly dry and the plants went searching for a water source


the soil seemed very very very dry today - its been 4 days since the last watering so i've given some water to 2 of them since i got home from work... they got about 1 litre of water each, and i suspect i'll be giving the other 2 water shortly.

I also decided, since it seems i have some pretty good roots at this point that perhaps i could probably get away with giving them some weak nutes... i gave them 1/4 strength 20-20-20... so we'll see how they like that!

proper pic update later tonight or tomorrow I think!

[headshake]

i went back and skimmed through your log but couldn't find if you started from seeds or clones. i'm sure i just missed it.

also, what size are those pots?


-shake

[syde00]

hey shake,

they were started from seed, sprouted right about 2.5 weeks ago and they are currently in 1 gal pots

the pic i posted is the one with the most roots poking out, which is actually the one that seemed the least upset about me overwatering it a bit earlier in the week

[syde00]

Well its been awhile since i've done a proper pic update.. so here we go...

i let the girls chill out on the inside of the patio door today to catch some sun rays, they were there for maybe about 5 hours this afternoon and they seemed to really like it, when i got home the tops of all of them were all leaning towards the sun!

they all seem to have recovered from the over-watering i think, plant #1 still looks kinda crappy, the pic makes it look worse than it is.. but i think its looking the worst because it also has pretty fat leaves...

now that they are back under the lights i've positioned them all in a way that should help them straight back out a bit.

I also had the raise the lights another notch today, they were getting a little too close for comfort

pic 1-4 = plant 1-4

pic 5 just kinda shows how the plant really started leaning towards the sun

[BeFree]

Wow. :greenthumb:

Nice looking little monsters ya got there. :stoned:

Also like the very 'green'
picture update.

beSafe:jointsmile: and keep up the good work.