California Orange Bud CFL grow

[syde00]

Well, I decided I shouldn't risk it and wait to see what happens with the sacks, as my gut instinct is screaming hermie... i pulled it out of the cabinet this morning and just going to let it chill out by a window for the day and going to pop it into an unused closet in my house... and hang a few spare CFLs in there when i get home

I guess maybe I can get some seeds out of it... i;m just a little afraid that those seeds will now be more likely to produce more hermies

it'll be interesting to see what happens with the clone of that plant i took several weeks ago, which is now growing outside nearby a single clone of each of my others.

around what time of the year to outdoor plants begin flowering? (in southern ontario - very close to NY state) I;m guessing late august/early september? I'll be wanting to check on that clone early in the flower process... if it hermies as well i'll be wanting to chop it down asap otherwise its going to pollenate the other nearby female clones.

the outdoor clones aren;t exactly in a place that i want to goto often... i dug some holes and gave them about 24 litres (6.3 gallons) of soil mix. same base soil i am using indoors (Hortibec Vegetable Garden & Herb). I mixed 60 litres of soil with 18 litres of perlite an 18 litres of vermiculite and popped a few fertilizer sticks in each hole.

I don;t really care about the outdoor ones too much... its really just an experiment... if they die i don't really care, if they don't then well... thats great. I won;t be too surprised if they don't survive since I don;t really intend on giving them too much lovin'

[jakezking]

syde, shim appears to be a hermie. Your pic 2 definitely appears to show pollen sacs, while pic 3 definitely shows some calyx/pistil action. I have no experience on hermaphroditic seeds, but have read they have a greater propensity to produce hermaphrodites than "normal" beans. However, if an environmental factor caused the plant to "turn" hermaphrodite, and it wasn't the particular plant's genes, I would think you could wind up with some decent beans?

[syde00]

hey jake, yeah that was pretty much my thinking... i;m really not too sure why that one has gone hermie though. i do think that the soil ph of that one has been off by quite alot for some reason, but i haven;t a clue why... its gotten the exact same soil/nutes/watering as the rest, but when i tested the ph of everything last time, its ph was about 0.8 points lower than the others, which was pretty huge... maybe that caused it? i don;t think i have any light leaks, my temp has been pretty constant (maybe a little cool when the lights are off), and none of my transplants have gone poorly at all... the ph is the only thing that has been out of whack on that one.

its not really a big deal, i mean i wasn;t expecting to get all females... i had expected to either kill a couple with this being my first grow or have a few males. i did kill one early on when a light fell on it as a sprout, but that wasn;t entirely my fault! my grow box has been a little cramped lately due to the remaining 4 being fems, so at least moving the hermie out frees up some space for the others!

[syde00]

Well i got the new makeshift cabinet setup for the hermie... it seems very very male dominant, theres hardly any hairs on it! hopefully it'll produce some seeds.

heres a couple pics of the new hermie closet... its running right now with 3 CFLs:

2x 2200 lumen @ 2700K
1x 1600 lumen @ 6500K

will be posting a pic update of the fems later today once i put them back in the regular cab, they are taking in some sun rays behind the patio door this afternoon for another hour or so before i move them back to the cab.

[syde00]

Alright, just moved the girls back into the regular cab and took some new pics

they are all now standing between 20 and 25", which means at the upper end of things, they have doubled in height since i threw them into flower 2 weeks ago!

pic 1 is the cola forming on plant #2
pic 2 is the one of the colas forming on #3 (this is the one i FIMd)
pic 3 is the cola forming on #4
pic 4 is just a shot of the canopy - plant #2 is the tall one in the back, #3 is the short on in the front-right, and #4 is in the front-left

i;m gunna see if i can come up with something over the next couple days to try and get the light over #3 a little lower - the current setup puts them all at the same height, but plant #3 seems to not be stretching nearly as much as the other any more - its pretty much been ahead of the game maturation wise the whole way... it also has way more hairs on it than the others

[bertoxxulous]

Very nice syde00. Its really interesting to see the difference between our plants and how each strain is so unique.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Syde00,

Been a while since I checked in and looks like you have some real beauties now:thumbsup:

Good recovery from the over watering and yes your past issues with the Ph was due to the over watering or low Ph. When water builds up it eventually begins to stagnate and the Ph goes down.

I have had this happen in the past and I solved it by doing a raised Ph flush. This may sound CRAZY BUT IT WORKED. But I will try to explain it. Lets say you have a runoff Ph of 5.5 which is very low and will cause nute lock. You want to raise that runoff to 6.5 by watering with water in the 7.0 to 7.5 range for one watering. The higher Ph counters the lower and will balance out to the range you desire, also add some nitrogen to the water to help the plant recover and get the much needed nitrogen once the roots begin to grow again. Keep in mind when nute lock occurs the roots are dying and decaying adding even more to the stagnation. So it is a slow process to recovery while you build up a new root system.

I see you already have recovered so this is not needed for your plants but I just wanted to let you and those following this log know how to deal with it for future reference.

JG

[syde00]

bertox - yeah, its pretty cool that we are pretty close to one another time-line wise in our grows too, your a couple weeks ahead of me so it kinda gives me a good guide on what i should be expecting lol. I really like your scrog setup too... kinda makes me wish I had done that, especially now that I have one plant getting significantly taller than the others.... I think I;m going to tie it down a little bit so I can get the lights evened out more again.

JG, thanks for coming back to check up! They really did turn around a lot after i got the overwatering issue fixed up, thanks! :thumbsup:. the pH stuff actually makes perfect sense to me... i;m totally a science geek, but unfortunetatly i don;t really have a lot of chemistry background... I really only have baisc chemistry experience from up until about grade 10 general science... I have taken advanced physics up to the lower university level though... my degree isn;t in physics, but did involve some mandatory physics courses. So when it comes to the lighting/electircal/etc, thats a little bit more of my A-game than the soil chemistry side

[syde00]

Day - Flower 21

Just a quick pic update... since not too much has changed in the last week... they don;t seem to be stretching nearly as much now which is great, and trichs are spreading!

pic 1 - the canopy
pic 2 - the top of #2
pic 3 - one of the tops on #3 (the FIMd plant)
pic 4 - the top on #4
pic 5 - an upclose shot of #4's cola

these pics were taken this morning, which is basically the end of day 21 for them... they go lights-out in about 10 minutes

[syde00]

Well, just another pic update, buds are slowly getting bigger

pic 1 - plant #2
pic 2 - plant #3
pic 3 - plant #4
pic 4 - group photo!

all i can say is... if i were a male canna plant, i'd totally hit that :jointsmile: