This Is Evil and Must Be Stopped Immediately

[Trip06]

the combine....is that a 'one flew over the cuckoos nest' reference?

No It was outta shinlerslist. And they had other Jews working in the death camps telling the people to go in the "showers".

[Trip06]

Man fuck the police, all they do is give good people criminal records for breaking crazy laws like having drugs, driving after drinking a fair amount of alcohol, riding on unregistered license plates, self defense, etc. I say there shouldn't be any police, just let everyone have the right to carry a gun and I believe that people will think twice about trying to do something wrong because of the fear of being shot

Been proven time and time again that this works 99% of the time. Several towns and citys across the United states have laws that you have to have a firearm in your possesion, and there is virtully no crime what so ever. Ask your self this are so safe anywhere 100 percent? Nope.

[sheist]

yeah i was pissed when i saw this on CNN.. as well Carbon motors isn't the only vehicle, see attached..

i feel like this is an invasion of privacy.. while it can scan and read for valid plates and such, it automatically brings up stored information on that vehicle, such as the last time it was pulled over and by who... and if they're able to get a photo id on drivers when they input the info in, they can match if the driver of the car is the same driver that got pulled over as recalled in the stored information (hypothetically speaking)

like, dad owns the car but the son drives it.. they pull up information on the car, see the last time it was pulled over for a crime of some sort and by who, match the face on the screen wit the face in the window, and god forbid it was a posession charge the kid was busted with.. they can simply tail the kid til he makes a mistake from being to scared of a cop behind'm..

and i know that once cops recognize somebody they got before, they'll keep their eye on them as long as they're in field of vision..

this kind of technology makes police-work too personal..

[sheist]

ya know, they usually say that if its available to the gov't, a consumer friendly version is available for the people.. i say we modify our vehicles, put our own cameras and mic's in the car and all that stuff.. wouldnt it be awesome to have a camera with like 20x zoom so you can see further down the highway if some jackass trooper is stickin out by the bushes with his radar gun or hiding within the flow of traffic a few carlengths ahead or behind? wouldnt it be awesome to have ur own cameras in the car recording what the officer is doing during his 'search and seizure' or what have you?

I got busted once and the cops didnt have a dash cam to record the bullshit they were puttin me through outside the vehicle, then they tried to briefly interrogate me in the police vehicle which obviously has mics in it.. I wish i had it recorded, cus I probably could've gotten off on a technicality..

We the people never get video or audio recording to our defense, its always used against us.. And it just so happens that they're used ever so methodically..

[sheist]

If you drive drunk or go 90 in a 45, your chances of getting in an accident and therefore of hurting/killing people are dramatically higher. If you have outstanding dui's and speeding tickets, maybe that hints that you should not be driving, regardless of whether you actually obey the rules when around police.

There are plenty of people charged with DUI, for simply sitting in their car listening to the music or watching a dvd on their dashboard screen, or radio-partying in a lot, all thanks to the key-in-the-ignition rule. They're placed in the same category as the people swerving all over the road, and by this you imply unjust suggestions that they too are undeserving of driving priveledges.

The simplest DUIs remain on ur record for 10 years minimum, before you can have the court expunge those records (thats if its misdemeanor). This says that those people who paid their $750 Driver Responsibility fees, $1000 court fines, and withdrew their driving priveledges for said duration, are still subject to scrutiny, years after their mishap for leaving the car on at the campgrounds while having a good night out. This implies that they've might not have learned their lesson, years or so down the road, even if their record was clean before that incident or after, which doesnt leave much room for influence on the hand that maybe they DID learn their lesson. Its unfair.

Most police, despite the occasional slip-ups and enforcement of laws outside of their control for which members of this forum seem to crucify them, are trying to protect citizens from different forms of harm. When this comes to driving, I take it very seriously - if you drive when you're drunk and don't care, you will ALWAYS be the bigger asshole than the cop that arrests you, even if you were driving within the traffic norms. Again, most people simply don't recognize the sheer quantity of destruction one can inflict with any motor vehicle (perhaps motorcycles aside) - for every 100 trips you make drunk and get home just safely, perhaps there's just that 1 where another driver, a cyclist, or a pedestrian is somewhere they shouldn't be and you're unable to react as fast as you should. When you sign up for a driver's license, you sign up to be a bitch to the legal system; it's for your own safety and others', whether or not you like it.

Most police are trying to go for their quota, and maintain a relative balance in that part of the community they're in. Alot of them tend to get an impression of a driver, and pull them over on a technicality to get personal with them (trying to catch any vibes whatsoever). I agree that you'll look like a complete asshole drunk behind the wheel, but pullovers aren't all about that. I know a person who while driving within traffic norms was pulled over, because it appeared as if they were smoking a joint (which was a handrolled tobacco cigarette), but the technical reason for the pull over was the sound of the muffler............the muffler...... cops will make up anything to constitute some kind of probable cause...

I believe people have a fair understanding of what a 2-3ton metal vehicle at high velocity can do. From a 2,000lb vehicle to a 5gram metal bullet, to grains of powder.. or volumes of liquid for that matter. When it comes down to destruction and damage, its measure is only given by the person dealing it.. Intent is the key. Intent is what they look for. Intent is often misjudged. While no man has the right to judge, (as according to many religious books) but the judge himself or jury (as according to legal standards), the officer will simply put u on the processing line with a biased presentation of your incident or situation.

[BlewBerry]

Most police, despite the occasional slip-ups and enforcement of laws outside of their control for which members of this forum seem to crucify them, are trying to protect citizens from different forms of harm.

I don't mean to flame, but come on, cops are not minions of the devil sent to infringe on liberties and rights.

I dont know what nice little community you live in, but around in So Cal., the cops are all about harrassment, and what you call occasional slip-ups...we call cops planting evidence to build a case or straight extortion all together. I have spent many years in both So. Cal and Chicago and can say from first hand that the MASS MAJORITY of cops I have ever seen/delt with, are completly dirty to the bone. We are far from the days of cops helping old ladies get thier cat out of a tree. Have you never heard of Rampart division, Miami Dade Vice or Signal Hill P.D.? These are not just isolated incidents. :wtf:

[yokinazu]

ive known about these for a long time now. im a mechanic by trade and i like to stay informed on what the new technologys are comin about in cars and about a year ago i started hear of these. they sound real scary. unless of course we are all good boys and girls and do absolulty nothin illegal.

[Light It Up]

There are plenty of people charged with DUI, for simply sitting in their car listening to the music or watching a dvd on their dashboard screen, or radio-partying in a lot, all thanks to the key-in-the-ignition rule. They're placed in the same category as the people swerving all over the road, and by this you imply unjust suggestions that they too are undeserving of driving priveledges.



I believe people have a fair understanding of what a 2-3ton metal vehicle at high velocity can do. From a 2,000lb vehicle to a 5gram metal bullet, to grains of powder.. or volumes of liquid for that matter. When it comes down to destruction and damage, its measure is only given by the person dealing it.. Intent is the key. Intent is what they look for. Intent is often misjudged. While no man has the right to judge, (as according to many religious books) but the judge himself or jury (as according to legal standards), the officer will simply put u on the processing line with a biased presentation of your incident or situation.

Well said, but I definitely do not agree with the fair understanding bit, it's true that the judicial system has some situational objectivism. The fair understanding aspect - out of all the accidents that occur, how many do you think are the responsibility of a stupid mistake made by one of the drivers? Someone's texting, someone's trying to do 5 things at one, someone's drunk, whatever it is - I have no idea how many accidents this accounts for, but I'd guess it's enough to effectively demonstrate people's lack of understanding the damage potential of vehicles.



Now, regarding those car-radio DUI's and those dirty so-cal cops, I don't know - I don't live where you live - but I'd guess the only cops you are pulled over by for bs reasons are the ones on the bad end of the spectrum. How many cops do you really know, honestly; do you ever go talk to people up at the police station? For the DUI's, yes it's of course true there are some stupid ones. But do you really think the majority of drunk drivers arrested really were just sitting with the key in the ignition?

I'm not saying any of these problems are non-existent, I'm just saying make sure you're taking the whole picture into perspective before casting judgement. Being forced to break the law naturally makes some of us biased towards it .