Log-3-15 2 seed indoor grow..FIRST

[syde00]

yeah, i can;t see the pics... and going to your profile i don;t see your albums anywhere either though... i could be doing something totally wrong though...

once you get to 20 posts (your only 8 away) you should be able to attach pics to your posts normally though.

i wouldn;t totally rule out nutes just yet - i know your not adding any right now, but i believe the MG moisture control soil contains time-released nutes doesn;t it?

if you just transplanted the plants too, it could just be from the transplant and needing some recover time, but i don;t think that would explain burns on the leaves... would also depend where on the leaves the burns are, and which leaves are burned (ie. at the top, the bottom, where the lights are, everywhere, etc)... the devil is in the details! - but a picture is worth a thousand words too not sure if its just me that can;t see them or if its everybdy though... like i said, i might be doing something totally wrong.

[dmahny88]

They've been really struggling..i see signs of life coming back in the form of new leaves...keep ur farmin fingers crossed, Jessica and Danica Patrick(*yes they were named*) just might make it! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
more updates in the future,
hopefully notes of growth and prosperity
so until then..Peace....:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile :

[dmahny88]

I have a misunderstanding of the idea of keeping your plant and its space moist(not causing any mold of course-but this isn't a risk during veg..) and ~middle~ in humidity, I hope this will be helpful to some one
The following thread was found on a question of how to mist your seed sprouting's newest leaves. I have not came across anything about use or technique of feeding water through the newest leaves of little sprouts; I know this is done on a later stage and on different clones but this thread explains:

Quote:
Originally Posted by JBonez:
", really, wouldnt cuttings need nitrogen? being that they wouldnt have access once they were taken from the mother plant? Im just curious because i have no clue!"

Posted by bud.uncle:
Nitrogen promotes vegetative growth, so if you don't leech the nitrogen the cutting will spend more time sprouting new leaves rather than roots. My clonebox is pretty cool in the fact that you can see the light green, nitrogen deficient cuttings quickly develope huge rootmasses. Next to them the healthy looking dark green clones grow roots at a dinosaur pace if it all.

Basically if a cutting is high in nutes, it doesn't need to grow new roots in attempt to intake more nutes.


OK. Now read that last line good. That is an important note and reminder, especially for me. n0000b:rasta:
So nitrogen,...understood. We get how it works/ and benefits the plant. Moving on. So what is your technique for moisting leaves of seeded plants in a dry environment? Is spraying or lightly misting your plants not a good idea AT ALL? Then again there seems to be a bigger more broad question. What growing scheme is most optimal for a potted grow in terms or "promoting" root growth with a reduction in "promotion" of leaf growth or visa versa?? Since we can't assume which is the better alternative: energy spent in root growth or E in leaf growth=(high nitrogen) case by case FOR EACH SPECIFIC PLANT and its surrounding environment the answer is always presumably somewhere in between...So ill give you the most important information in this thread now and ill put this into a single simple question:

yep

heavy misting will leach Nitrogen from the plant

great if your preparing for taking cuttings

not so great if your veging

OK. So if I had a weak root system which I know for a fact is now booming outwards BUT I managed to kill/burn off the 4 first leaf sets with now 2 new sets coming in but only in a small way(maybe an square inch of good, new, healthy leafage if could guess). Basically I still have a small plant on top still. The bottom 3/4 leaf sets are dried, thinned, and light green/brown, so here is my question, and its only an abstract idea for the high and like-minded so if you dare, listen up. And don't be afraid to answer. Any words on this are appreciated
If a plant, whose first and final root life-stage is to be a root ball held in a pot then i feel that there is a possibility that in raising a plant from shortie to biggie that the most optimal growth is a fluctuation along its life period of root to leaf growth promotion. And does this not correlate with what pro growers fluctuate their nitrogen levels on?
My question: IS MISTING A YOUNG PLANT DIRECTLY WITH PHd WATER A BAD THING IN TERMS OF LEACHING?
Thanks for reading, enjoy!

PEEEEEACE
Should this post be moved??? I already feel stupid for putting this in my grow log ill probably repost this again into the advanced techniques if there is interest or if i don't get an answer haha i can't believe i was told and told again to buy a spray bottle and now im told not to overspray my plant's leaves..arg! failure

[quarteroy]

bet you have your pics posted on the main site album not the forum album and there is no link from here too it post them in the one when you click your name from this page. From the sounds of things and what i was going to tell you because i have had similar sounding problems (cant see pics) is you probably need Nitro but looks like you figured that out. If the lower leaves are the ones turning yellow from the bottom up and outside in then its probably nitro.

peace

[dmahny88]

ah..20 posts=pics. Wish all that provisional rule info was easier to find. Anyways sorry for the long delay if you are even still following, what are you following you may ask? well my plants of course, here they are now. I am planning to put them into 12/12 flower this week and repot probably within the next 2-3 weeks. I will be changing/adding the lighting with ~80 more Watts of 2700K CFL's today or soon me thinks.
One is a FEMALE woot! I think ill smoke a j to formally celebrate this with my online crew:jointsmile: The other is a male(?not sure yet but i will probably end up flowing only one plant) i think so ill wait and see until im sure then trash it. Damn im hungry. This was a bad time to start a post. Ill be back..with my j:thumbsup:
No nutes have been added but now is the time. I think i will mix a 1:15 bottle of PISS and feed it that once. OK food. Ill be back on that note
Peace

[dmahny88]

For a bit more info and update on my plants you can see what kind of health they were in during the period we haven't spoke but there is a "public!" profile album now on my name with the pics posted of what they looked like when they got a bad-good reaction to the new pots and new lights so what you see in the newest pics seems nearly healthy up higher but unbelievably small. This is because im a n00b. So in my case should the amount of bud-sites that i see now develop into more as it goes and flowers or is this like a seed bonsai bush grow now?!?! To bad I have to flower this week as I'll have to be moving out :hippy::rasta: to da beach:rastasmoke: Peace! Enjoy da herb!
I posted some more i got with "der-camera-de-crap" that gives out on me like 80% of the time i try to take the retard cannon powershot a80 4.0MP soo meh..here you are be i high:stoned::stoned::stoned:

[tokr2153]

have you ever thought of lst? I think that u would really benefit from it cause of all the stretching u got goin on

[Italiano715]

have you ever thought of lst? I think that u would really benefit from it cause of all the stretching u got goin on

I'd have to agree, I think a good LST will help get it nice and bushy...:jointsmile:

[bigtopsfinn]

They look like they are coming back to life! But yeah, the problem with CFL's and fluoro's is the slow growth. Either switch to HID or get a lot more CFL's... You can probably add on a week or two to flowering times also using just CFL.

The LST might not be a bad idea at the point... They are quite stretched.

[dmahny88]

Quite stretched indeed...
how'd I do? I hope you guys meant Lst the main stem because thats what I did.
lighting changes: (from just 4 6500K @ 1600Lumen-26W bulbs)
4-23W "soft white" 1600Lumen bulbs 3-4 inches away
3 26W/1600Lumen @6500K bulbs 3-4 inches away
and 1 42W/2700Lumen "soft white bulb" a foot away
I basically sightly more than doubled my # of lumens.

This is my new lighting since yesterday all focused around 1 plant now(trashed the other) and I will switch to 12/12 either tomorrow or the next day.

Peace!