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04-24-2009, 12:05 PM #1
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Foilar feeding "stinky, rusty, or experties"
good morning ladies and gents! So i have a few questions that might be in you experties. So i have read good things and bad things about foilar feeding your plants during veg. state. Now one of my questions, I bought a product called Rot-Stop by a company called BONIDE and its used for calcium deficiency; now can i use it at small intervals during my veg state? I also have a product called Schultz Orchid Bloom 19-31-17 (water soluble) and how much should i add during flower? Now my Aurora Indica i plan on keeping completely organic all the way through its life cycle... now i have Neptunes Organic Fish Fert 2-4-1 now what will be good with this during flower? thanks for you time and knowledge from one grower to the next
camoxnhx Reviewed by camoxnhx on . Foilar feeding "stinky, rusty, or experties" good morning ladies and gents! So i have a few questions that might be in you experties. So i have read good things and bad things about foilar feeding your plants during veg. state. Now one of my questions, I bought a product called Rot-Stop by a company called BONIDE and its used for calcium deficiency; now can i use it at small intervals during my veg state? I also have a product called Schultz Orchid Bloom 19-31-17 (water soluble) and how much should i add during flower? Now my Aurora Rating: 5
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04-24-2009, 02:31 PM #2
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Foilar feeding "stinky, rusty, or experties"
I'm not a big fan of foliar sprays mainly because of the residue's, and the stress. It's just too hot where I live to dick-around with the foliar process, (raising lights, cooling-down the room, waiting till dry, then rinsing the residues off with ph'd water, lowering lights...too much of a pain, lol.) and residues clog the leaf pores preventing plant respiration.
Originally Posted by camoxnhx
It mentions being 100% organic, but I'm not all that convinced that just because it's organic that it's ok to smoke, at some point down the line.
Keep reading, there's more on calcium below...
I couldn't find the quantity to mix. Is it on the bottle? It should tell you how much product, in a gallon of water, will last however long till the next feeding. Use this number, and divide by four. This should pull you down to a more reasonable N-P-K ratio. (approx 5-8-4)
Originally Posted by camoxnhx
I found the make-up of the orchid food, and apparently Orchids don't need Iorn, magnesium or calcium. This is handy info, as there's a product called CalMag Plus. (calcium and magnesium. The "Plus" is iorn) I would get and use CalMag before I'd use a rot-stopping spray for tomatoes. (9% calcium sounds rather much, but I really have no clues about spraying that concentration of calcium to the leaves)
19% Nitrogen
(4.2% Ammoniacal Nitrogen)
(1.4% Nitrate Nitrogen)
(13.4% Urea Nitrogen)
31% Available Phosphate
17% Soluable Potash
0.02% Boron
0.07% Soluable Copper
0.05% Chelated Manganese
0.07% Chelated Zinc
0.0005% Molybdenum
Organic is a pretty word, but I could care less what makes my ladies grow, if it's working. (but I do use an organic soil, and Fox Farms nutes are organic-based)
Originally Posted by camoxnhx
Neptunes has a pretty high nitrogen to phosphorous ratio, and fish ferts stink pretty bad...but if need be, and I had no other options, I guess I'd give it a go. No additional nitrogen of any type if you do use it.
With these nutes and additives, you may (will likely) encounter annoying little defeciencies and problems...till you get the stuff dialed-in. Before they came-out with all of these designer nutes, it took me a couple of failed grow cycles to learn how to use Miracle Grow, (All Purpose for veg, Rose Food for flower) and a year or so to dial it in without frustration and setbacks. Was doing fine till someone turned me on to Fox Farms stuff. Now I'm hooked, and can't live without it, lol.
The point to this is: You can dick-around with virtually any off-brand nutrient and additive regimin, but even if you get it dialed-in...will it be anywhere close to the results, were you to have purchased and used the nutrients almost all of us use for cannabis? (Fox Farms, Botanicare, Canna...)
I'll bet you could grow some wicked orchids, though. :jointsmile:
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04-26-2009, 12:41 PM #3
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Foilar feeding "stinky, rusty, or experties"
It's in powder fourm and Its a teaspoon mesurement per gallon. So should I do half of that or a 1/4 of it? With our orchids it makes them desile
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04-26-2009, 12:44 PM #4
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Foilar feeding "stinky, rusty, or experties"
I also been trying to sex my white rhino and still no shin of sex yet and it's been 1 week 4 days so should I give it a blast of the shultz to help show the sex or just leave it on 12/12?
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