Morning Glory Questions

[Nullific]

Keep in mind if you're going to do them multiple times a week you will likely develop a tolerance, and taking more seeds to make up for it.
The seeds contain other alkaloids other than LSA which are probably more toxic are high enough doses as others mentioned.

[jadeius]

So here's my question, is there an easy way that anyone knows of to extract the LSA from the seeds, perhaps without using dangerous chemicals/solvents? I would REALLY like to try the morning glory seeds; I've never done LSD, so I think it would be a good moderate as opposed to losing it on LSD. Puking shouldn't be a big deal, I've done enough of that, but would it cause me to have a bad trip if I'm already tripping when I'm puking? I love to experiment but only if I can gain some knowledge first...enlighten me!

[lateralus]

Here's an LSA extraction thread on Lycaeum.
http://forums.lycaeum.org/cgi-bin/ul...c&f=3&t=001154

[ganja is my game]

If he starts to get really bad cramps in his legs, thats a sign that he's doing it to often. The pain is from Constriction of blood vessles, and its said that in very high doses that morning glories(and HBWR seeds) can cause ergotism (though ive never actually heard of anyone getting ergotism from them.), which can lead to gangreen(not sure i spelled it right), which can lead to loss of extremities... But the cramping is just an early warning sign, nothing to worry about.

this freaks me out i posted earlier somewhere that i did MG seeds and thought i had ergot poisoning. well during my trip i did get cramps in my tendons right behind my knees. i didnt know that was a sign of ergotism. that was my second time doing them. so as i said before MG seeds are not for me i dont like them, the trip was ok but the side effects ie. puking, cramps, chills, discoloring of my face and extremities, etc.... were not worth the trip

[LearyS Disciple]

this freaks me out i posted earlier somewhere that i did MG seeds and thought i had ergot poisoning. well during my trip i did get cramps in my tendons right behind my knees. i didnt know that was a sign of ergotism. that was my second time doing them. so as i said before MG seeds are not for me i dont like them, the trip was ok but the side effects ie. puking, cramps, chills, discoloring of my face and extremities, etc.... were not worth the trip

ive done lsa a couple of times and i use a simple extraction and i never get the side effects youre getting. for me its usually a pleasant trip with maybe a little nausea that passes then i start tripping. ive never gotten leg cramps either. maybe it affects people different

[andruejaysin]

Yeah. if peoples legs were falling off we would have probably heard about it by now, and MSG's would be a controled substance.

[jadeius]

LearyS, what kind of extraction did you use?

[LearyS Disciple]

i usually use a simple method of just taking untreated morning glory seeds, grinding them up and letting them sit in alcohol for about a day.strain the seed mush, then i drink the alcohol. if u are just doing about 250 seeds, 2 shots will do. try using something like everclear but i dont use that because i dont have any. i usually use the strongest alcohol i can get a hold of though.
there is more complicated ways of doing this, using things like petroleum ether which is really not available to the general public or using naptha but the alcohol is much easier and it works for me so i stick with that.

[Edgar]

yeah, apparently only some people get the cramping in the relatively lower doses, myself included. Its not a big deal, like a said, ive never heard of a single case of somone actually getting ergotist from them. If its even possible, it must happen in really high doses. Traditional ergotism is caused by ergot, not seeds, and ergot has many chemicals in it that the seeds do not have.

[iamignant]

Edgar, you should do 1000. Get it over with now. Your on your way anyhow.