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[Shovelhandle]

Nice flowers, Killa. :thumbsup:

[headshake]

Thanks Killa... Deff got some reading to do..plan on reading both completely through :thumbsup: hopefully i can finaly get good genetics and one day dial in grows like yours ...Hah just made that my new years resolution
Thanks Again man

hempy's aren't that difficult deleafer. just make sure you have a PPM meter and a pH meter!!!

i use a 50/50 mix. i'm not saying that that is the best mix, just what i've started with as of now. this is my first go-round with hempy's.

keep in mind that perlite acts like a wick and the vermiculite has a tendency to retain the water/nutes.

i use 1 gallon milk jugs that i've electrical-taped up. 1 gallon is supposed to be the sweet spot. i put a 1 1/2 inch hole (i think) about 1 3/4 inch up from the bottom. i don't know the exact measurements as i'm not at home. use a piece of screen or something so your medium doesn't wash out. some say they don't have problems, but i have.

there is my two cents.

as soon as i can i'll start a log documenting my hempy experiences.


-shake

[deleafer2220]

Thanks Shake,

Hope you don't mind this Killa.. but Shake from what I have collected, you and I are close... I was planning on doing 2 inches from bottom with Killa's 4:1 ratio with the perlite... Currently no PPM meter but its on my christmas list along with some decent genetics either CH9 like Killa has mentioned or DNA Genetics (Hope i was good this year)... and I have several 1 gallon dressing containers from work that look like they will work fine... Hanna pH meter should be here this weekend i think..Have had bad luck with Light leaks and males so need to light proof before anything.. One question for you or Killa is in your opinion which works better coco or vermiculite considering they are both just about Neutral Mediums ? Also (sorry to ramble on) do you guys fill the container up to the hole with perlite before adding Both mixed together , or just fill the whole thing with the mix ?

Thanks again you guys

[killa12345]

Nice flowers, Killa. :thumbsup:

thanks shovel.....always nice to see ya bro! hope you had a great turkey day!

hempy's aren't that difficult deleafer. just make sure you have a PPM meter and a pH meter!!!

i use a 50/50 mix. i'm not saying that that is the best mix, just what i've started with as of now. this is my first go-round with hempy's.

keep in mind that perlite acts like a wick and the vermiculite has a tendency to retain the water/nutes.

i use 1 gallon milk jugs that i've electrical-taped up. 1 gallon is supposed to be the sweet spot. i put a 1 1/2 inch hole (i think) about 1 3/4 inch up from the bottom. i don't know the exact measurements as i'm not at home. use a piece of screen or something so your medium doesn't wash out. some say they don't have problems, but i have.

there is my two cents.

as soon as i can i'll start a log documenting my hempy experiences.


-shake

I think you got it totally backward shake....the perlite retains water; the vermiculite works as the wick!

I think 50/50 is not a good mixture at all....i think it would be to dense and not allow proper air flow and oxygen....just my opinion! I also dont think a PPM is neccasary if you kinda know the your feeding them is not to high! PH pen is a must....i would even try hempy's without a ph pen.....no drops...PH PEn ONLY......you want to be in that 5.8-6.0 range to allow all the nutrients to be availible to the plant!

Thanks Shake,

Hope you don't mind this Killa.. but Shake from what I have collected, you and I are close... I was planning on doing 2 inches from bottom with Killa's 4:1 ratio with the perlite... Currently no PPM meter but its on my christmas list along with some decent genetics either CH9 like Killa has mentioned or DNA Genetics (Hope i was good this year)... and I have several 1 gallon dressing containers from work that look like they will work fine... Hanna pH meter should be here this weekend i think..Have had bad luck with Light leaks and males so need to light proof before anything.. One question for you or Killa is in your opinion which works better coco or vermiculite considering they are both just about Neutral Mediums ? Also (sorry to ramble on) do you guys fill the container up to the hole with perlite before adding Both mixed together , or just fill the whole thing with the mix ?

Thanks again you guys

never tried coco....so i have no clue...there is a large hempy thread on IC which all different methods are used....i just stick with the origanal 4:1 mixture and all is good! Hope that helps deleaf.....and i just fill the whole container with the mixture....no layers here!

[headshake]

I think you got it totally backward shake....the perlite retains water; the vermiculite works as the wick!

it's funny you say that because the soil plants that i add perlite to dry out faster than the ones i've amended with vermiculite. not to mention, my hempys don't need to be watered every 2-3 days. they can go longer in between.

"Materials such as diatomaceous earth, clay, vermiculite, hydrogel, and shredded bark will make soil hold more water. Gypsum releases nutrients and improves soil structure."

i'm not arguing with you killa. just something i came across. also, on that thread on IC with jrosek i think he says the same as i do. i know i've read it somewhere. perlite is added to aerate the soil and reduce compaction.

I think 50/50 is not a good mixture at all....i think it would be to dense and not allow proper air flow and oxygen....just my opinion! I also dont think a PPM is neccasary if you kinda know the your feeding them is not to high! PH pen is a must....i would even try hempy's without a ph pen.....no drops...PH PEn ONLY......you want to be in that 5.8-6.0 range to allow all the nutrients to be availible to the plant!

yeah, like i said, i have no ideas on mixtures. 50/50 was merely a starting point.

you know the strains you are running, obviously. you have your own blend of nutes for christ sake. but if you are growing multiple strains, perhaps such as WH (which doesn't like too high of nutes) and other strains then a PPM meter will definitely come in handy. again, not arguing, but i wouldn't tell someone to start trying hempys without one, so that was my opinion! especially when one can be had for $20 or less, there is really no excuse not to have one. you can save that in your containers or elsewhere.

again, not trying to start anything. as you know you are one of the people i look up to around here!!!


-shake

[deleafer2220]

Ok so I've decided to do a 3:1 on the (per/verm) mixture in 1 Gallon buckets as a test trial with bag seed till I get $$ for good genetics.
This way i can see which ratio i will run on next one.
No ppm but deff a better pH method (drops as of now )
with most likely GH nutesand will try to find a way to get RO water
Thanks Killa and Shake for all the help when started will keep you guys updated :jointsmile:
Oh and Killa couldn't help but notice in one of your logs that this year was a good year for us in the lower regions with hurricanes :thumbsup:

[killa12345]

it's funny you say that because the soil plants that i add perlite to dry out faster than the ones i've amended with vermiculite. not to mention, my hempys don't need to be watered every 2-3 days. they can go longer in between.

"Materials such as diatomaceous earth, clay, vermiculite, hydrogel, and shredded bark will make soil hold more water. Gypsum releases nutrients and improves soil structure."

i'm not arguing with you killa. just something i came across. also, on that thread on IC with jrosek i think he says the same as i do. i know i've read it somewhere. perlite is added to aerate the soil and reduce compaction.



yeah, like i said, i have no ideas on mixtures. 50/50 was merely a starting point.

you know the strains you are running, obviously. you have your own blend of nutes for christ sake. but if you are growing multiple strains, perhaps such as WH (which doesn't like too high of nutes) and other strains then a PPM meter will definitely come in handy. again, not arguing, but i wouldn't tell someone to start trying hempys without one, so that was my opinion! especially when one can be had for $20 or less, there is really no excuse not to have one. you can save that in your containers or elsewhere.

again, not trying to start anything. as you know you are one of the people i look up to around here!!!


-shake

Your probably right shake on the perlite and verm. as far as which one is for water retention and which one acts as the wick..... ive just gotten a few plants from my friends where the mixture is like 60/40, 50/50, or even 40/60 and they all dont seem to grow the same as the origanal 80/20 im used to!

I dont know what jrosek ran in the thread but i know he runs 100% perlite now, and even he has modified his system recently using all tables of perlite with containers! He is still running the bogglegum(regis cut) which i have a mom in veg right now to stagger in to see if i can get the numbers he gets!

As far as a PPM pen.....yes they are cheap.....yes i do think every grower that take this hobby at least a little bit serious should have one! But is it neccassary with Hempy Buckets.....I dont really think so! Ive gotten by 2 years without one.....got one.....figured out in one or two uses my nute mixtures were to high......figured out a better regime.....never used it again!

I dont think running a variety of strains has anything to do with it! As you see.....im running:

Purple Wreck
Purple Kushx Purple Rhino
Herijuana
WW
Bogglegum
Banana OG Kush
Moondawg

Which range from sensitive to massive heavy feeders.....But if your gonna be playing with your nute mixtures.....Its manditory that you have a PPM!

For people that want a easy nute mixture that really wont burn any plants.....then i would suggest running Lucas Formula with either GH or AN! Run a bloom Blooster in flower and you will never have a problem with a plant's nutes!


and shake, your talking to a person with no ego....please constructive disagreements will always be welcome in this thread....now and forever...im no master and i learn new things everyday from people like you and the rest of the forum! :thumbsup:

Peace
Killa

[headshake]

Your probably right shake on the perlite and verm. as far as which one is for water retention and which one acts as the wick..... ive just gotten a few plants from my friends where the mixture is like 60/40, 50/50, or even 40/60 and they all dont seem to grow the same as the origanal 80/20 im used to!

I dont know what jrosek ran in the thread but i know he runs 100% perlite now, and even he has modified his system recently using all tables of perlite with containers! He is still running the bogglegum(regis cut) which i have a mom in veg right now to stagger in to see if i can get the numbers he gets!

As far as a PPM pen.....yes they are cheap.....yes i do think every grower that take this hobby at least a little bit serious should have one! But is it neccassary with Hempy Buckets.....I dont really think so! Ive gotten by 2 years without one.....got one.....figured out in one or two uses my nute mixtures were to high......figured out a better regime.....never used it again!

I dont think running a variety of strains has anything to do with it! As you see.....im running:

Purple Wreck
Purple Kushx Purple Rhino
Herijuana
WW
Bogglegum
Banana OG Kush
Moondawg

Which range from sensitive to massive heavy feeders.....But if your gonna be playing with your nute mixtures.....Its manditory that you have a PPM!

For people that want a easy nute mixture that really wont burn any plants.....then i would suggest running Lucas Formula with either GH or AN! Run a bloom Blooster in flower and you will never have a problem with a plant's nutes!


and shake, your talking to a person with no ego....please constructive disagreements will always be welcome in this thread....now and forever...im no master and i learn new things everyday from people like you and the rest of the forum! :thumbsup:

Peace
Killa

i hear you loud and clear brother! i'm the same way withe the constructive disagreements. we are always learning! that's part of the beauty and fun of what we do.

with the clones i just took and will be taking, i plan on putting one of each into different mixes for science's sake. lol. i know you are running a 600W to my 400W but your PW after 10 days was crazy. so i would say that there is definitely something that works with your mix. and like you said, it's probably the oxygen getting to the roots. too much verm and the medium get's pretty dense and heavy and stays wet longer, hence me not watering every 2-3 days and like you are. could be all the difference right there. i'll make sure to post my findings. i'm pretty sure that you are close to right on the mark!

and i hear ya loud and clear on the PPM meter. i've been running your nute regimen and it seems to be working nicely. i'm trying to burn through this fox farm that i have left and move on to something else.

i appreciate all of the info and criticism and whatnot. i would never take offense to such things either. sometimes people interpret what is written in a way that it was never meant to be. it's hard to judge inflections and whatnot when reading text.

anyway, sorry for rambling. check out my hempy log, you know i need the help. the DBP is beast! i think it's male (it just started throwing preflowers) which is fine because it will be a good breeding dad. i've still got a few of those beans to run so i know i'll get a good female mom from them. thanks again!


-shake

[killa12345]

Heres some pics of the harvest yesterday! Not much between the two plants...maybe 35-42 gms total! Ill post it when they are dry!

[bluntpasser]

Nice job again killa. Maybe one day you can grow outdoors with hempys??..that would be quite a yield....:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: