Fox Farms Nutrients Question

[HighonaMountain]

Hey everybody, In the spirit of gaining more knowledge through others experiences, I was wondering if there were any good nutes/ferts/supplements that go well along side the fox farms trio. I am currently using tiger bloom and this weekend i'm getting some big bloom to add in. I'm just wondering for future grows and such. Also i would love to discuss soil mixes people have had success with. I am currently using ff ocean forest mixed with ff light warrior, but i want to try new things. Any and all comments and experiences are welcome, i'm just a new grower who really wants to learn! Thanks People!

HighonaMountain Reviewed by HighonaMountain on 04-09-2009. Fox Farms Nutrients Question Hey everybody, In the spirit of gaining more knowledge through others experiences, I was wondering if there were any good nutes/ferts/supplements that go well along side the fox farms trio. I am currently using tiger bloom and this weekend i'm getting some big bloom to add in. I'm just wondering for future grows and such. Also i would love to discuss soil mixes people have had success with. I am currently using ff ocean forest mixed with ff light warrior, but i want to try new things. Any Rating: 5

[headshake]

fox farm also makes a trio of soluble powders supplements. they are called cha-ching, beastie bloomz and open sesame. i just received them, so can't comment on how well they work. sorry.


-shake

[FourTwenty4Life]

My current grow is the first I've ever used the FF trio. I am also using FF Open Sesame so I'll make sure to comment in my log when the time comes. The Google search function for this site is quite helpful when it comes to 90% of your questions. The other 10% are all the helpful experienced vets who will answer your questions. I have learned a lot about growing this amazing medicine from these forums.:hippy:

[Rusty Trichome]

My soil is called Filthy Rich by Dr. Q. Already has plenty of castings and shit.

I've got the Cha Ching, and will continue to properly use it till it's gone, but won't re-order it again. Be real careful with any of the FF solubles...it's some very potent shit. Be careful when using it in conjunction with your normal nutes.
The plants show flowers eventually, so it's not worth the extra expense in my budget to get the Open Sesame, and I've never used the Beastie Bloomz.

I do use Soil Syrup (humic acid) twice monthly per directions, and Botanicare Sweet on occation. (but I'm not sold on the 'Sweet' stuff)
The Soil Syrup is one I'll always have on hand. With Fox Farms, you'll get minor salt build-up. I correct this condition with scheduled monthly flushes, (veg and flower) folowed immediatelly by a full-strength solution of the humic acid.
Even though Fox Farms Grow Big and Tiger bloom have your micro's, I still use Superthrive in veg. One or two drops per gallon, depending on plant maturity.

Be careful with mixing shit together. It doesn't always work out for the best.

[the image reaper]

I love the Fox Farm stuff, and agree the powdered solubles don't really seem necessary, and they ARE powerful concentrates ... I pretty much just use the Grow, Tiger Bloom, and Grow Big, and blackstrap molasses ... I don't experience the 'salts buildup' either, probably because I flush and re-new my solution every week-10 days, seems to prevent that from happening ... good growing :thumbsup:

[Rusty Trichome]

Should have specified that I grow in soil, as I have no clue about it's use in hydro. :jointsmile:

After a few months of being open, I start to hear the salts conglomerating in the bottoms of the nutes when I shake the bottles, (no build-up in the Grow Big, though) and runoff ph will start to swing. Not wildly, but enough to visually catch your attention.
The monthly mini-flushes at a 1:1 volume of pot per gallons of ph'd water release any salt and nutrient build-up, plus the humic acid is great for the roots. (which coincidentally is to be applied monthly, per instructions)

[HighonaMountain]

yeah i have heard nothing but crappy reviews of the ff soluables. im definately going to invest in humic acid and also, rusty, what do u mix with ur filthy rich? I want to use a new soil mix next grow. i am thinking about following your flush then humic acid method this grow, it has been a month since i flushed last and i did not feed them anything directly after that first flush. thanks for the reply shake, i'll definately be watching ur grow 4204L. yo reaper are u talking bout hydro, let me know more about that blackstrap molasses. Thanks for all post guys!

[HighonaMountain]

The growshop near me carries Grandma Enggy's H2 humic acid https://www.advancednutrients.com/ca...age.php?pID=42 What do u guys think about this? Also i thought of another question, when giving tiger bloom and grow big during flowering, should i give them seperately or or mix them in the same gallon of water? Keep the posts comin guys!

[Rusty Trichome]

...and also, rusty, what do u mix with ur filthy rich?

10-15% extra perlite (largest chunks I can find) during winter months. Keeps the soil from retaining too much water, otherwise I'd have to change my water/nute schedules.
During the summer months though...I add nothing. (I live in the desert, so retaining water is a bonus) Occationally I'll throw-in some worm castings, (1 tablespoon per 5 gallon pot, mixed-in well at transplant) but it's not a necessary purchase. I just happen to have around ten pounds of the stuff, and am slowly getting rid of it. (the Filthy Rich soil, and the Big Bloom already have castings in it)

Molasses is theoretically a bulking agent, as is Botanicare Sweet. Gives the plant 'usable' sugars, carbon, and various other elements, but you'll want to be careful with overdoing-it. Molasses can adversely affect ph, and can cause you more problems. Using it on stressed plants is not recommended.
Again...I've got it, and occationally use it on healthy underperformers...but am not overly convinced that it's necessary in a healthy garden. Opinions differ on this, so I expect some retaliation, lol.

[Rusty Trichome]

Regarding humic acid...as long as it's a leonardite extract, almost any brand will do...but I use this brand:
Soil Syrup
Soil Syrup is 12% leonardite, Advanced Nutrients is 7% leonardite.