perfect led grow light?

[hearseking]

what about weight thats what i am curious about how much could be produced from one led system on each plant so if you used one Procyon 100 on 2 plants or even one how much final weight ,by the time you add your nutes and electric and not even get an ounce its a waste of time and you are actually loseing money

[oldmac]

Hearseking,

Hard for me to put a wgt to light per plant, like I've said before I do SOG style grow (single cola plants <16-18") in the aero/fog trays. But the 3'x3' trays I described above have 60 plant sites and averaged 6.5grams per plant, dried and manicured, first grow out. Took a little over 7weeks to go cutting to finish running WW (being attended to by noobs). Should go 7-8 grams with a little tunning. The potency is as good as HPS, and most folks think better.

I have been doing and still doing experiments with pure LED light, LED/T5 hybred lights, HPS light and I want to try HPS/LED but have not gotten to that yet. In a grow that I'm a partner in, we are growing in dirt (well Pro-Mix) and are experimenting with various lights vs. 1kw HPS, veg times vs plant size and dispproving to my partner some of the long held myths abt growing.

In an above post there is a picture of 2 TI Problooms, here's two pictures to show you where it is, side by side with HPS. See, I really am putting LEDs up against "the big boys".

[hearseking]

I wonder if a t5 setup would grow more weight than a led systemm by itsself,I had seen some thing in the h.t mag were the guy was using t 12s but plansts didnt get enough weight for it to be worth the trouble.Wish they would just make one that was of the highest quality and not keep doing one after another that says of this is 10 percent better than the last one but i guess thats how they make there money

[ayhoung]

right now, we're considering a 1 blue and 1 red high power LED in this type of housing. What do you guys think?

[DreadedHermie]

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Red and blue's nice...

[CmeSmoke]

What do you guys think would make the perfect LED grow light? What do YOU want that current grow lights can't provide?

One of the things the current growlites cannot provide is the ability to luman the bottom branches and light the buds UNDERSIDE of the plant.

I thought that a LED that was shaped either like a horseshoe, or hinged,(kind of like a donut birthday cake) that would lay around the base of the plant,(or connect to the rim of the planter) and would either shine upwards, or have probes that encompass the LED "ring",could be adjusted up into the branches where the light is not penetrating....there's way too many buds not getting enough light down inside the plant.

With the low heat the LEDs give off, I think they would be a great canidate to create a light that could be placed right beside the plant without harming it.

[the image reaper]

you should post this in the 'LIGHTING' section ... besides, why would you illuminate the underside of a plant ? ... does Nature do that ? :wtf:

[CmeSmoke]

why would you illuminate the underside of a plant ? ... does Nature do that ?

Well, no nature doesn't do that.....but neither does she grow things inside as a rule.

I grow indoors so maximizing each plant yield is a must(can only have 3 mature plants at a time), and there's alot of little buds that aren't getting the light they need. I'm thinking that an LED light that "canopies" basicly the whole plant, even the underside AND in throughout the branches would do exactly that.

If anyone has tried this, i'd like to know if it was successful or not. I would like to try it, and in fact am going to purchase a few LED panels and modify them in the best possible way to get 360 degree lighting....

here is the site I was looking at...

450 High Power Red Lamp LED Plant Grow Light Panel :: Gardening Equipment :: TheLaShop

[oldmac]

Hey CmeSmoke,

Do yourself a favor and skip those panels. I don't think they will do very much except cost you money and make you think LEDs don't work. Even with putting them low or to the sides of a plant as supplemental lighting they are so weak, IMHO it is not worth the effort.

Cheap panels like that are based on weak 5mm LEDs, that have even less penetration then most LEDs used today. Probably better off with a UFO knock-off.

[CmeSmoke]

Thanks oldmac :thumbsup: any tips I get ,i'll use. Thats what I was thinking about those particular lites, they might not be strong enough.... thats why I responded to this thread. To see what product was out there and how to improve it. Share an idea or so...

Do you think that if I could get light down inside the plant safely will allow the buds down in there to grow better? I would think that lighting those hard to get areas would greatly enhance the yield.

Man, I've got SO many buds taking off inside the plant it's crazy!:jawdropper: and I only topped it once....(which is growing stunted, by the way)....

Maybe the author will respond.