SENTRY MEDICAL

[ZionsLion]

I guess my point is that "Those who talk, don't know. And those who know, don't talk" How many time's have you seen Paul Stanford bragging in the news papers? Yet, I've seen him on the front line, testifying for his patients... (I choose THCF as my doc, but am not affiliated with them in any way)

There are many others in this state that help further our cause.... The reason that most people don't know about them is that they keep their heads down and get their work done...

Did Steve help get our laws clarified... NO! A conscientious group of PATIENTS did, by showing up at the Health Dept. meetings...

I'm in firm agreement that we need change, and even direction.... I just think that anyone who calls themselves a "Leader of the MMJ Movement" has a 98% chance of being a douchbag who's in it for the wrong reasons... That is, of course, my opinion...

[jamessr]

So I understand you all about some movement leader, you all say steve Didn't do shit for us?? I can tell you different, but I don't think I would be able to get past a bad taste in your mouth.... did anyone see paul stanfords leading exhibition 6 plants and nothing over 12 in. x 12 in. square as our LEADER WHO IS FOR PATIENTS RIGHTS, sorry boys and girls, but if you go by your experiences with this, I say you are just SHEEP looking tobe lead....

If you want tobe or find a new leader, buck up !!!! My son and I do, look at State v. James E. Barber out of whitman county that went all the way to the supreme court of wa. and was denied because the 2 little girls, WHERE WAS PAUL,DODGE AND ORVALD, HIDING UNDER A ROCK SHACKING LIKE SCARED LITTLE GIRL'S, THEY PROMISED TO SHOW UP, SO WE DIDN'T SUBPOENA THEM, SAD FOR MY SON AND HIS FELONY CONVICTION TO ADD TO TRACY AND SOPER MEMENTOS NOTCHED ON PAULS BELT .... The 15 plant any size came from this case PEOPLE, IF YOU CARE TO LOOK AT THE TRUTH, THE REASON WE EVEN HAD THIS ISSUE WAS BECAUSE SANDYBARR GOT INTO THE TRENCHES AND FORCED THEM TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN TORTURE US PATIENTS, ROB US BLIND, AND WE NOW HAVE BOTH STEVE AND SANDYBARR TO THANK FOR THIS.....NOT PAUL FRAUDING PATIENTS WITH BOGUS PAPERWORK STANFORD, WHEN WE GET DONE WITH THCF, IT WON'T EXIST ANYMORE.... I PROMISE YOU THAT!!!! imp: :thumbsup NOT TOO MENTION WE ARE ON ROUND 2 WITH ORVALD AND PAUL FRAUDING US......

[snoop01]

I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM MY FRIEND.

I WAS JUST TAKEN TO JAIL FOR HAVING 2 GRAMS OF POT IN THE CAR AND MY CARD IN MY POCKET.
THE WORST PART ABOUT THAT WHOLE SET UP IS THAT THE COPS VIOLATED THE RIGHTS OF INNOCENT KIDS TO VIOLATE ME, TAKE ME TO JAIL, IMPOUND RENEES CAR, AND HELD ME HOSTAGE FOR 6 HOURS WHILE MY PEOPLE TRIE TO BAIL ME OUT FROM THE BUCKLEY FEDERAL HOLDING FACILITY.
NOW THE ORTING POLICE HAVE SERIOUS CHARGES AGAINST THEM FROM KIDS THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN VIOLATED BY "OFFICERS OF THE LAW".
THEY COULD NOT GET A SEARCH WARRANT BECAUSE I AM FOLLOWING THE RETARDED RULES OF THE GAME THE BEST THAT I CAN.
THE FEDS WERE SWARMING MY BLOCK UNTIL THEY FUCKED UP AND ARRESTED ME FOR DOING SOMETHING I WAS SUPPOSE TO BE LEGAL TO DO.
YOU GUYS NEED TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE MOVEMENT.
I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS BATTLE.
I WONT STOP FIGHTING UNTIL IT IS SAFE FOR ME TO DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD IN ORTING, THEN MAYBE MAKE SURE EVERYTHING ELSE IS OK..

[snoop01]

THATS SOMEBODY ELSES WORDS, BUT IT SOUNDS GOOD DONT IT???

LEAD THE MOVEMENT INTO A POSITIVE DIRECTION IS WHAT STEVE WAS SUPPOSE TO DO.
HE DID ME SOME GOOD, OR I WOULD NOT HAVE KEPT HELPING HIM.

WHEN I LEFT HIS HOUSE BEING WATCHED BY THE POLICE IT BOTHERED ME BECAUSE THEY FOLLOWED ME HOME, PUT EVERYBODY I KNEW AT RISK, AND FORCED ME TO HIDE UNDER A ROCK UNTIL THEY VIOLATED ME ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IN ORTING.
ONE COP THREATENED TO SHOOT ONE OF MY DOGS FOR CHANGING SEATS IN THE CAR WITH 2 KIDS IN THE CAR.
I WAS ALREADY CUFFED AND STUFFED WHEN THEY DID THIS.
THEY ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.

IS NALA OK???
COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE SEND A SPY OVER TO STEVES TO SEE IF NALA IS OK???
I AM MAD AT STEVE FOR NOT STANDING UP LIKE A MAN RIGHT NOW.
HOW MANY PATIENTS DID HE "SELL THE DREAM TO"???

[ZionsLion]

James,

I am very interested in what you have to say about Paul Stanford, I made it clear that I have no affiliation with THCF, I just know that they have showed up in court before and they answer my emails.

Steve, on the other hand, I've heard that he's NEVER gone to court for his patients, AND likes to cut corners, sacrificing patient safety for his desire to make a buck. He runs through site admins like a full grown plant runs through water. Also, I can name 5 people that once worked "closely" with him, who now know full well that he is scum.

Here's an interesting question, How can you claim that Steve's done so much for "The Movement" when you claim that you've never met him (In another thread)

As far as sheep vs. wolf.... I'm a LION... Here to expose the wolves by spreading truth and knowledge...

I guess my whole point is that people like Steve are here to make a buck at the expense of the sick and needy. He should be expose like the parasite that he is....

Again, I would LOVE to hear what you have to say about Paul "Phony Paperwork" Stanford... My papers are legitimate and well documented, I have to submit new papers even for a renewal. But again, this is my personal experience and may not be the same as every one else...

[ZionsLion]

Ok, I did some research and something doesn't add up... Your son was denied status as a medical patient because you went to THCF and they had you seen by an OREGON doctor... Why didn't they (THCF) just admit their error and submit an authorization signed by Orvald?

I was visited by Westnet and they accepted Orvald's Recommendation.

Again, I want to point out that it's SHIT like this that makes me stay away from anyone CLAIMING to be a "Movement Leader"

For all I know, Paul Stanford and Steve Sarich are the same type of person...

I maintain that our law was created by VOTER INITIATIVE... Our clarification can be attributed to PATIENTS VOICING THEIR CONCERNS... Paul S./Orvald, Steve S./Sentry/Cannacare, are not LEADERS, they're business people...

My biggest problem with Steve S. is that he's willing to sacrifice patients to get laws changed... From what you say Paul S. is in that same boat. These are not the kind of people that I call a LEADER... But then again, I'm not looking to be led....

It angers me when I see so called "Leaders" leading people astray... Doesn't matter if you're talking about Steve, Paul, or Satan... It's wrong, and unless we band together as a community (By having conversation threads like this one) it will keep happening....

[jamessr]

Well I made paul hire orvald, the first day he started, I was his 3rd patient, I contacted my son in whitman co. and he said B.S. dad, you bumpt your head man, dodges paperwork is VALID under full faith and credit, you will see, paul said so, well as you can see, it wasn't, before my son got charged he did listen and went to bellevue and got orvald papers, the court denied him using it, same judge that did hanson, paul didn't charge my son for the orvald papers, as a matter of fact, orvald gave him a 600 gram 60-day supply, so after his conviction we started growing his 600 and my 3 oz. oregon limit that orvald gave me to replace dodges papers(my son & I have the same conditions..)

Now both of these are open-ended, no-expiration date, I didn't see orvald in wa. I saw him in oregon, I never been to the wa. clinic EVER..the feds tried to get my dodge documents in a grand jury phony baloney case, In re to subpoena of THCF medical clinics, was my documents the judge mentioned in the case of 14 plants, so we started growing in hoquiam, just so happens pauls mother worked at the hospital there and knew all the LEO in the county, get it yet?? We got set up big time, they popped our house within 60 days, the chef of HPD told us 2 days after they robbed us that if we go away and don't say shit about what they did we wouldn't get hosed by his DEA friends... WELL I DON'T EVER LAY DOWN FOR ANYONE EVER, WE SUED THE FUCKERS, almost 2 yrs later, my son gets charged and they pop me for 9.59 grams with paul, not orvald, writing a declaration of our guilt, stating we don't have valid documents from THCF medical clinics, if you read the complete laws and caselaw behind corp. practice of medicine, THCF is not validly licensed in wa. to conduct business because paul don't have a license to practice medicine, he is the ceo , EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A 501(c) 3 non-profit, he MUST HAVE A MEDICAL LICENSE TO DO BUSINESS IN WA., ALL PATIENTS SEEN IN WA. ARE FUCKED, FUCKED, FUCKED, LOOK AT 71 Wash. L. rev. 403: revising washingtons corp. practice of medicine doctrine, RCW 18.71.011, Dirk Yow v. The DOH unlicensed practice program,147 Wn.App. 807.. A person practices medicine if, AMONG OTHER THINGS, he/she:

(1) offers or undertakes to diagnos, cure, advise, or prescribe for any human disease, ailment, injury, infermity, deformity, PAIN, or OTHER CONDITION, real or imaginary, BY ANY MEANS, or INSTRUMENTALITY:

(4) USES ON CARDS, BOOKS, PAPERS, SIGNS OR OTHER WRITTEN OR PRINTED MEANS OF GIVING INFO TO THE PUBLIC, IN THE CONDUCT OF ANY OCCUPATION OR PROFESSION PERTAINING TO THE DIAGNOSIS OR TREATMENT[***10] OF HUMAN DISEASES OR CONDITIONS THE DESIGNATION " DOCTOR OF MEDICINE", "PHYSICIAN", "SURGEON"," MED", OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF UNLESS SUCH DESIGNATION ADDITIONALLY CONTAINS THE DESCRIPTION OF ANOTHER BRANCH OF THE HEALING ARTS FOR WHICH A PERSON HAS A LIC. TO DO SO.... see, state v. pac. health ctr., inc., 135 Wn.App. 149(quoting people v. amber, 76 misc.2d 267...

Now go to THCF website with all his in mind and look for yourself, If I was a THCF patient I would get a different Dr. and clinic to cover my ass, FAST, before NOV. 30, cause that is the day THCF will cease to exist in WA. ST., or at least the beginning of the end....and all wa. patients are in jeopardy of arrest and conviction, my bet is the att. general will seize THCF assets and who knows what else.... RUN MAN RUN..........:thumbsup:

Keep in mind no caselaw exists for sentry or Dr. Jason LING, I can tell you Dr. LING is on the up and up, I been in the industry for over 10 yrs and been more than around the block... NO LING PATIENTS HAVE EVER BEEN CONVICTED,(to my knowledge, as you can see, I turn over every rock, pebble, sand grain) and that says a mouth full, regardless of any opinions about steve, steve don't exist in our laws of MMJ when it comes to the nitty-gritty... This is why I say so fucken what about OPINIONS of steve....::thumbsup:

[snoop01]

Why not let the president lead the movement.
Let him appoint people that can represent the State.
Like a Union.
THEN WE GET FIRED IF WE SCREW UP TOO MUCH.
I KNOW I AM NOT GIVING UP MY GARDEN, AND I DONT SELL OR GIVE ANYTHING TO KIDS.
What if Growers got Wholesale FOR THEIR EXTRA PRODUCE.
Then the dispensories mark it up to about $300 to keep it off the street.
If the game was fair to play, everybody could fit in somewhere and we can all have good meds.

The plant RULE should just go away for people working to help people.
How can you get in trouble for trying too hard???

I thought the 10x10 flower room per patient was reasonable for one patient, but with a PLANT LIMIT you also need a VEG room to support the flower room with plants large enough to flower.

My plants go through about 4 re-pottings before they finish in 10 to 15 gallon pots of soil.
HOW MANY DISABLED PEOPLE CAN DO ALL THE WORK TO MAINTAIN THIS TYPE OF GARDEN?
ITS A PAIN.

I want my GROW address registered on a list like an IP address.
PLEASE CALL ME OR EMAIL ME, before they KICK IN THE DOOR.
SOMETIMES I AM NOT IN THE MOOD TO BE IRRITATED.:stoned:

If comercial gardeners were growing with hopes to provide for dispensories, we may need to be seperated from everyday home growers that live in tight residential areas.
You cant tell me to SAVE THE WORLD then put me in jail when we get close to being able to live.
IF YOU LABLE ME A FARMER
I WILL WORK MY ASS OFF.
IF YOU LABLE ME WITH A TARGET ON MY FORHEAD I WONT PLAY THE GAME.
I WILL JUST STAY HOME AND GET MY SMOKE ON BY MYSELF AND GOOD FRIENDS ALL DAY LONG.

:S5::joint1::vap_smiley::S5::joint1::joint1::S5::S 5::joint1:

[ZionsLion]

Doctor Shopping for EACH condition that you have?.... How to survive the NWO?... Getting an OPEN ENDED Authorization AND OVER a # of meds FROM a DOC..... (These are James' topics from the Canna Corn website)


It is CLEAR that you and I don't share the same reality....

Never argue with a fool... People might not know who's who...

[killerweed420]

Well I made paul hire orvald, the first day he started, I was his 3rd patient, I contacted my son in whitman co. and he said B.S. dad, you bumpt your head man, dodges paperwork is VALID under full faith and credit, you will see, paul said so, well as you can see, it wasn't, before my son got charged he did listen and went to bellevue and got orvald papers, the court denied him using it, same judge that did hanson, paul didn't charge my son for the orvald papers, as a matter of fact, orvald gave him a 600 gram 60-day supply, so after his conviction we started growing his 600 and my 3 oz. oregon limit that orvald gave me to replace dodges papers(my son & I have the same conditions..)

Now both of these are open-ended, no-expiration date, I didn't see orvald in wa. I saw him in oregon, I never been to the wa. clinic EVER..the feds tried to get my dodge documents in a grand jury phony baloney case, In re to subpoena of THCF medical clinics, was my documents the judge mentioned in the case of 14 plants, so we started growing in hoquiam, just so happens pauls mother worked at the hospital there and knew all the LEO in the county, get it yet?? We got set up big time, they popped our house within 60 days, the chef of HPD told us 2 days after they robbed us that if we go away and don't say shit about what they did we wouldn't get hosed by his DEA friends... WELL I DON'T EVER LAY DOWN FOR ANYONE EVER, WE SUED THE FUCKERS, almost 2 yrs later, my son gets charged and they pop me for 9.59 grams with paul, not orvald, writing a declaration of our guilt, stating we don't have valid documents from THCF medical clinics, if you read the complete laws and caselaw behind corp. practice of medicine, THCF is not validly licensed in wa. to conduct business because paul don't have a license to practice medicine, he is the ceo , EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A 501(c) 3 non-profit, he MUST HAVE A MEDICAL LICENSE TO DO BUSINESS IN WA., ALL PATIENTS SEEN IN WA. ARE FUCKED, FUCKED, FUCKED, LOOK AT 71 Wash. L. rev. 403: revising washingtons corp. practice of medicine doctrine, RCW 18.71.011, Dirk Yow v. The DOH unlicensed practice program,147 Wn.App. 807.. A person practices medicine if, AMONG OTHER THINGS, he/she:

(1) offers or undertakes to diagnos, cure, advise, or prescribe for any human disease, ailment, injury, infermity, deformity, PAIN, or OTHER CONDITION, real or imaginary, BY ANY MEANS, or INSTRUMENTALITY:

(4) USES ON CARDS, BOOKS, PAPERS, SIGNS OR OTHER WRITTEN OR PRINTED MEANS OF GIVING INFO TO THE PUBLIC, IN THE CONDUCT OF ANY OCCUPATION OR PROFESSION PERTAINING TO THE DIAGNOSIS OR TREATMENT[***10] OF HUMAN DISEASES OR CONDITIONS THE DESIGNATION " DOCTOR OF MEDICINE", "PHYSICIAN", "SURGEON"," MED", OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF UNLESS SUCH DESIGNATION ADDITIONALLY CONTAINS THE DESCRIPTION OF ANOTHER BRANCH OF THE HEALING ARTS FOR WHICH A PERSON HAS A LIC. TO DO SO.... see, state v. pac. health ctr., inc., 135 Wn.App. 149(quoting people v. amber, 76 misc.2d 267...

Now go to THCF website with all his in mind and look for yourself, If I was a THCF patient I would get a different Dr. and clinic to cover my ass, FAST, before NOV. 30, cause that is the day THCF will cease to exist in WA. ST., or at least the beginning of the end....and all wa. patients are in jeopardy of arrest and conviction, my bet is the att. general will seize THCF assets and who knows what else.... RUN MAN RUN..........:thumbsup:

Keep in mind no caselaw exists for sentry or Dr. Jason LING, I can tell you Dr. LING is on the up and up, I been in the industry for over 10 yrs and been more than around the block... NO LING PATIENTS HAVE EVER BEEN CONVICTED,(to my knowledge, as you can see, I turn over every rock, pebble, sand grain) and that says a mouth full, regardless of any opinions about steve, steve don't exist in our laws of MMJ when it comes to the nitty-gritty... This is why I say so fucken what about OPINIONS of steve....::thumbsup:

I'm no big fan of Dr Orvald, but the fact is if you get a MMJ authorization signed by him it is legal in Washington. He's a licensed MD. Unless you can prove his license was revoked.
I also don't like Dr Orvald because it takes a subpeona to get him into court to help his patients. We all know why he's in the game. The same reason almost every other doctor in the state is in the game.