Calling out to DreadedHermie for a game of "stoner chess"

[Weezard]

Sorry, though I had already posted this one.:stoned:

P - Q5
Just to lean on your knight.
A'ight?

The plot curdles.
Wee

[DreadedHermie]

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[Weezard]

Bishop takes pawn!!

That will pin your knight and bishop, waste a move, and flush your queen.
A lazy guy's attack.

'Zard

[DreadedHermie]

Hey, I picked up a couple bricks of Botanicare CocoGro. Ready to start asking questions. Got some (sort of) expendible chillun's in the veg room. Ever wash off the roots and do a mid-veg conversion to coco? (8" rooted clone in a 1 gal plastic nursery pot--any chance to live?) Otherwise, time to ^ to a 3 gal soil pot, shoes gettin' tight!

Actually, got a 3gal plant I could attempt this with, too. If it's possible to do it, is converting from rootbound in soil to the same pot, but with coco considered an upsize? Seems like it would be....

Where should I start a "going coco" thread? Call it what? If we put yer name on it many will check it out. Me no care. You wanna edjumacate John Q. as we go, that's okay, too.

[Weezard]

Hey, I picked up a couple bricks of Botanicare CocoGro. Ready to start asking questions. Got some (sort of) expendible chillun's in the veg room.

Gnat's no fun!

Ever wash off the roots and do a mid-veg conversion to coco?

Have done with edible Hibiscus. No need with coco.

Expand some coco. Just chip it off the block and pour warm, nuted, PH'd, water on it. Not soaking wet, just "clumpy"
Then pack some moist coco in da bottom of the 3g pot and set the 1g pot in it to check for proper depth.
Then pack more coco around the 1g pot so the two pots are nested.
If the moisture is right, the coco holds it's shape when you carefully remove the 1g pot.
Slip the 1g pot off the rootball and carefully lower da rootball into da coco-hole.
Perfect fit!
The girls will show no xplant shock. Quite the contrary. The growth spurt is almost immediate.
I use General Hydro Grow or Bloom at 1 tsp. per gallon and keep the PH 'tween 5.3 and 6.3.
My tap water averages 7.1 PH and 1 tsp of GH nutes usually lowers the PH about to the proper range.
My tap water is only 120ppm. so I add a tsp of CalMag instead of nutes every other watering.

Only gotchas? Never let the coco go dry like we do with soil and do not allow standing water under da pots. (Coco wicks better dan soil and will draw up "stale" water).

(8" rooted clone in a 1 gal plastic nursery pot--any chance to live?) Otherwise, time to ^ to a 3 gal soil pot, shoes gettin' tight!

She'll live, but not well. The soil chemistry gets unmanageable in tight shoes.

Actually, got a 3gal plant I could attempt this with, too. If it's possible to do it, is converting from rootbound in soil to the same pot, but with coco considered an upsize? Seems like it would be....

Yes, it would be, but prolly not worth the hassle of washing the roots if they are rife with corns n bunions.

Where should I start a "going coco" thread? Call it what? If we put yer name on it many will check it out. Me no care. You wanna edjumacate John Q. as we go, that's okay, too.

ICMag.
That PM feature is very handy and I really don't miss the tension when I hit the submit button.
They already have an excellent coco thread we could play in.

Ainokea 'bout JQP, they'll catch-up eventually.

If ya gots da tiny flies and itty larvea, be aware that they will live in coco too but will have nothing to eat except for root hairs!

They are very hard to eliminate. The adults will try to lay eggs in the new coco as you mix it.
The li'l buggahs will even live in hydro!

Long way back I planted some seeds and ran out of pots.
Put one in a 1g. milk jug.
Used Supersoil/perlite. from Homie de pot.
The soil was infested with Fungus Gnats!
The seedling growth slowed to a crawl as the roots got munched.
Juggie was the only normal sized healthy kid in the batch.
Why? Because I filled the jug to the top and had the seedling grow up through the 1/2" dia. mouth of the jug.

Aha!
Much less surface area for hatching, breathing, and egg laying.
After wasting a lot of effort on frontal attacks that they parried with a ferocious breeding rate, I found an easy, almost elegant fix.
Tulip growers put an inch of white sand on the soil surface.
Tried it, it worked, but it was a royal pita come transplant time
So, I now cut a circle or square of reflectix to fit the container.
Then, cut a slot to the center, then cut 8 radial lines about 1.5"
long from the center point. Kind of an asterisk.
That hugs the stem gently and expands as she grows. I place these on top of the pots to block the breeding cycle, with the advantage of 97% light reflection to the bottom leaves.
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No pest strips knocked out the adult gnats and the spidermites and now the room is clean.

Oh, yeah, Your move, brah.

Aloha,
Off-topic zard

[DreadedHermie]

I meant I've got some spare plants that were prolly gonna get culled that I can experiment with. I like the reflectix trick, though. Been doin' that with paper plates, per an earlier discussion between you and Stinky, I think. :thumbsup:

Direct transplant sounds good. The direct approach.

The hydro store guy seemed to think Fox Farm nutes would be fine; he didn't try to sell me something different, which is unusual for him. I've got Fox Farm nutes for soil, though--not hydro. Don't know if that even registered with him. Couldn't remember what you'd recommended for nutes, so I just got the coco bricks. Expanded one brick already with plain non-nuted, non-ph'ed tap water. (Just slightly alkaline, proper nutes put it right. Quit testing it awhile back, PIA. Now need your advice on convenient pH and dissolved solids meters. (Hanna? Milwaukee?))

Anyway, got at least one 8" plant that I would rather sacrifice in a fiendish experiment than straight-up execute. :buzz_saw: Thinkin' of offering a "FF Grow-Big for soil" kinda all-you-can-eat-buffet, with that as the only item. Jes' to see. Take it or leave it, you spoiled plant! :eat:

Jeez. Now IC's down.

And I'll move my KR pawn out to KR3.

[Weezard]

I meant I've got some spare plants that were prolly gonna get culled that I can experiment with. I like the reflectix trick, though. Been doin' that with paper plates, per an earlier discussion between you and Stinky, I think. :thumbsup:

Direct transplant sounds good. The direct approach.

The hydro store guy seemed to think Fox Farm nutes would be fine; he didn't try to sell me something different, which is unusual for him. I've got Fox Farm nutes for soil, though--not hydro. Don't know if that even registered with him. Couldn't remember what you'd recommended for nutes, so I just got the coco bricks. Expanded one brick already with plain non-nuted, non-ph'ed tap water. (Just slightly alkaline, proper nutes put it right.

That's funny, I should think he'd push the Canna line. It's made for coco.
I would not use FF, or any soil nutes, for coco.
The PH is wrong and you will be missing some trace elements usually found in soil.
Remember, coco has zip of it's own nute-wise,
It's sort of a solid hydro.
The plant will receive only what we supply.
I've been using "Dyna-gro" Liquid Bloom 3-12-6
and Dyna-gro liquid Grow 7-9-5.
Don't claim they are the best.
They are just the "devil I know"
It's what my Hydro shop stocks.

Quit testing it awhile back, PIA. Now need your advice on convenient pH and dissolved solids meters. (Hanna? Milwaukee?))


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I added the wire handle. I dip out a sample and pour it into the Solids meter cup. Then take another dip and drop the PH probe in it.
The PH reading take a minute or so to stabilize so I check the dissolved solids while I wait.
Plan to buy 4 more of the cheap ($ 20) Aquarium monitors and having a real-time readout in each bucket.
Need more Eagle shit first.

Anyway, got at least one 8" plant that I would rather sacrifice in a fiendish experiment than straight-up execute. :buzz_saw: Thinkin' of offering a "FF Grow-Big for soil" kinda all-you-can-eat-buffet, with that as the only item. Jes' to see. Take it or leave it, you spoiled plant! :eat:

Jeez. Now IC's down.

And I'll move my KR pawn out to KR3.

Hmm. Lemme go see if our boards agree.

BRB,

Me.

Yup, same board.
Um, you prolly don't want to do dat.
Iff'n ya does, I'll steal your knight and lean on your Rook.
Care to re-consider?

Weeze.

[headshake]

(Hanna? Milwaukee?))

i've heard nothing but bad things about hanna, but a lot of people (stinky included i believe) recommend milwaukee.

i don't own a meter yet so i can't comment from experience.



-shake

[DreadedHermie]

Um, you prolly don't want to do dat.
Iff'n ya does, I'll steal your knight and lean on your Rook.
Care to re-consider?

I think I've got a pawn threatening your bishop if he wants my knight. Rook no worried. Did I mess up the board again?

Lemme see.

[Weezard]

Nope, you have it right


It stands then.
Lemme add a li'l pressure;


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