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    #21
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    bad news about water pipes

    Well you have to consider some things here, first of all the study was sponsered by MAPS and NORML so I find it perfectly credible and secondly it used NIDA supplied marijuana which is less potent than most of the schwagg on the streets which is responsible for the horrible cannabinoid to tar ratio. Had they used potent home grown and cared for buds maybe the outcome would have been different, the cannabinoid:tar ratio would undoubtedly have been different but that alone cannot conclude the outcome would have shifted in favor of a different device.
    Bongs due to their design and the way they cool smoke with water allow you to inhale a greater volume of smoke which could give you the illusion that it got you 'higher' when you were really just taking a bigger hit than you would have off any of the other devices. If you like to take big hits like that then by all means smoke out of a bong.
    It seems to me the cooling of the smoke would help dissolve the actives into the water, even though thc is only slightly water soluble it is perhaps soluble enough to make a difference.

    How well a pipe smokes depends on the pipe, consider that the longer you apply flame to the bowl (same applies for bongs) the hotter the material you are smoking and cannabinoids get and the greater chance of some being destroyed by the excess heat. Some tars and cannabinoids will also stick to the insides of the bowl and chamber of the pipe.

    With properly rolled joints theoretically you are not wasting anything because flame is not applied after the first hit and there is nothing for resin for stick to but is rather soaked into the remaining cannabis at the joints end, which is eventually smoked. The problem people seem to have with joints is they feel it is being wasted when it is idle. The obvious solution to this is not to leave it idle, pass it to a friend to hit or put it out when it isnt being smoked. Use paper that burns slower and/or moisten it slightly or apply a thin layer of hunny. The slower the joint burns, the less will be wasted when it is not being hit.

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    #22
    Senior Member

    bad news about water pipes

    personally i think joints do get me more stoned but im waay to lazy to roll them.

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