Quote Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
When eugenics was first proposed, do you believe people foresaw genocide?



As I said before, a lot of the times people try and help the environment, but they only end up causing more harm. Nothing is wrong with improving our environment, assuming it doesn't result in our quality of life decreasing. The solutions people are proposing these day's will do absolutely that.




I honestly have trouble believing your serious here... You honestly believe we should save the lives of birds over humans. You would trade human lives for those of birds? Why bother attempting to cure any disease? I'm actually at a lose for words over this one... Maybe one day you will be lucky enough to die of malaria, I say lucky, because at least you will be saving the lives of some birds....




Your argument supports my view of global warming perfectly. Thank you. Your right, people don't look at the facts because they simply follow their ideological leaders; no need for them to think for themselves.





So we allow government officials to make these decisions. Why are our politicians special? Do you honestly believe that all these stupid and ignorant people would not vote their own kind into office?
Our quality of life is a little too high at the moment, materially. I really can't give any amount of a shit whether or not new environmental measures will result in your average person not being able to afford an HD TV.

You are right...stupid and ignorant people vote their own kind into office. In theory, then, nobody is qualified to make any decision, but decisions have to be made. If a river was being rapidly drained of all its fish, the people need to be banned from fishing there, however much some may moan about how their rights are being stepped on. I can't think of anything more dire than the future of the planet, but apparently our consumerist "quality" of life takes precedence. I used the birds as one example...the birds aren't the only victims of human "progress." I'd rather see a green world where we live more simply, than a world of wheels and gears in which everybody can consume to their heart's content.

I'm not a liberal, just a guy who tries to look at everything on its own terms. I'm typically pretty anarchistic, but I'm all for keeping people from doing irrevocable harm to the beautiful world. One day humans will be extinct and the earth will get a reprieve.