Quote Originally Posted by overgrowthegovt
I dislike and mistrust governments as much as the next man (believe me), but the only thing more self-serving and amoral than a government is a corporation. There is nothing holy about the free market, no inherent value in laissez-faire leave to arbitrarily fuck with the world and its peoples.
You obviously don't mistrust the government as much as you like to pretend, otherwise you would think their meddling was a liability.

Alternative fuels are absolutely necessary for human progress at this point, for man to finally begin rectifying the environmental carnage we've wrought for the longest time.
All this hippie bullshit pisses me off. Why does it have to be "eco-friendly?" If there is a market for eco-friendly products they will be created. What you are talking about is the government interfering in our lives by saying we can only buy products that are eco-friendly. The environment looks fine to me. The soil still grows food, the water is drinkable, what the fuck exactly is wrong with our environment. You can take care of the environment without becoming a fucking eco-nazi.


Environmental carnage? What exactly is this carnage you speak of? The pseudo-science know as Global Warming? Species going extinct despite the fact it happens every day and has been happening for thousands of years? Carnage is a very strong word, yet I don't see any evidence of carnage taking place. Sure the smog in L.A. indicates a problem with pollution in the area, therefor they need to fix their own problem on their own.

I also like the hypocrisy of liberal thinking. I assume you believe Darwin was correct with his theories, yet we must save all these species and plants, we must save the environment! Darwin wouldn't care what animals live and die, it a part a nature. What every happened to natural selection and survival of the fittest? If your planet is changing, we and other animals will adapt, if not, we really aren't worthy of surviving.

This holy free market will indeed explore other fuel sources, realizing that this is necessary for their profit and survival, but these will not necessarily be eco-friendly sources.
Again, why do they have to be eco-friendly?

The problem with the holiness of the completely free market is that world commerce is in the hands of CEOs who value money and nothing else, who have no other interests or concern for human well-being in general.
Are you really that idealistic. Of course CEO's care about making money, they would never have advanced to that position if they weren't good at it. I fail to see what is wrong with succeeding in life and making a fortune. Are they evil because the started a company and turned it into a profitable business? Are they evil for creating jobs? Yes, there are corrupt CEO's, but they aren't all corrupt.

Not to mention, what incentive would their be to invent things if it weren't due to money. If you come up with an ingenious idea, you want to get a patent. If it weren't for the financial benefits of coming up with said idea, what incentive would their be to actually work at it and eventually produce the product?

Governments don't come up with great ideas, civilians do.

Also, with the free market, if you don't like the practices of a company you can choose to not support them financially. There isn't that check and balance when it comes to the government and it's investments.

And do you really believe politicians aren't greedy? Do you honestly believe the majority of politicians care about the people? Their actions don't suggest they give a fuck about us. They not only are greedy when it comes to money, but they are power hungry as well.

I hate ignorant generalized statements like that. Yup, every CEO and every president of a company would slaughter 10 children if the price was right. Believe you that...

What alternative fuels do you have in mind? Windmills that kill birds like their going out of season and are very unreliable. It's a technology that has been around for 100's of years and is still complete shit? Perhaps solar panels. Nope you need to many of those in order to produce a reasonable amount of power, not to mention all these people who want alternative energy don't want it in their backyard. Sure we could try and improve it, but who is to determine which of these inferior sources of energy will power the country.

Nuclear power is the best we have right now, but we can't use that because the critics say it isn't eco-friendly.