Quote Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
So by your logic, the last born child should not be able to alter anything in their household?
The problem is the last born child, that now is a 5 years old children, somehow got a gun and now is bullying and forcing everyone else in the house to do whatever it wants... a home controled by an armed 5-years-old isnt very right, is?

Quote Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
the essence of the matter is that humans are just another part of the natural order. we are not guests, we are not steward or wardens and we are not a plague. we merely seem to be the only creature here that feels guilty about placing our mark on the earth, something that every other species tries to do as best it can. we have the ability to see what damage we can do, but we do not always have the ability to stop or reverse the process.
Yes, i agree, humans are another part of the natural order. The human industrial society isnt. The progress and industrialization gave humans power over the nature, which is what i meant with the gun at the paragraph above.

And having or not the ability to stop the damage is one thing, but closing the eyes for dont see the damage is another one...

Quote Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
First of all, the most abundant green house gas is water vapor, the media, nor the politicians ever mention that however considering it would be difficult to reduce it. However, regardless of that fact, they still promoted cars which released water vapor as opposed to CO2. How exactly does that benefit the environment when water vapor is far worse according to nearly all sources.
Well... in this case, the media and the politicians actually has a good reason for dont talk about the water vapor causing global warming... the amount of water vapor in the air is self-regulating, if there is too much of it the air becames more wet and rains, sending the excess of water vapor to the surface of earth condensed as water... yet the same doesnt happen with CO2, which remains in the atmosphere for very long amounts of time and hardly can be "condensed" into a harmless form.

BTW, anything can be proven or disproven with internet informations... but i do have facts. In the southern region of my country, there wasnt never ever any registered hurricane... but, since 2004 there were two of them, what never had happened before... and hurricanes need warm oceans to be created, so the only possible explanation is that somehow the ocean got hotter than it was before... why its so, we dont know for sure, but surely the global warming is the best candidate.