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[quarteroy]

Well went in this morning and noticed a ton of these brown/ copper colored flies. So I went to the local grow shop and got some soap. will try it out today some time see how it works. Also got a carbon scrubber "Can" and a "Can fan" for some ventilation and smell control. will install some time soon ill show you the pics once its done. might be a few days have some other things to do.(neither are in pics)






other than the flies every thing seems good.

quarteroy Reviewed by quarteroy on 03-10-2009. First grow. led This is my first grow. I will be using one of the Chinese e-bay ufo's a 14w panel and 80w florescent tubes(only on 6 hours a day to hit the rest of the spectrum) the enclosure is covered in Mylar, there is a fan blowing directly on the plants. the soil is miracle grow organic with sand and worm castings in it. the ph is running about 6.7 I'm running 24/7 light for veg with 6 hours of the florescent. So far so good they are about 6 days after germination now (some of the plants first leaves are Rating: 5

[quarteroy]

Well the flies are still there put some more soap on it. any one ever dealt with small brown/ copper colored flies (looks like when mature about size of house fly) or maybe I'm seeing 2 different bugs. they don't seem to care too much about plants seems like they want the soil... any help would be nice if I had a nicer camera I would take a pic.

They look like they are starting to show they are indica to me (just some bag seed) leaves seem very broad.:thumbsup:






as always check my albums for the full size pics

[quarteroy]

The damn spray for insects that the grow shop sold me... telling me it wont hurt my plants, and that's what the bottle says. Well now i have yellow spots on my leaves... :wtf: ill post pics of it later. Its called safe soap. Used just as directed and sure enough this morning i have yellow spots that look dead/dieing on some of my leaves. doesn't look like its going to kill them or anything just disappointing to see them like this... oh well lesson learned i guess. oh and the flies still aren't gone any one got any tips that wont do this?

[WhiskeyTango]

make sure you shake LIGHTLY the excess moisture off your leaves after adding anything, even plain water to em. I would get this stuff at home de pot called organicide. Smells like rotten fish, but it kills gnats, and their larvae that grow and reproduce IN the soil. Mix 1 cup per gallon.
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Or any pyrethin spray....again, make SURE to shake off excess moisture on leaves. It acts like a magnifying glass for the light to burn the leaves.

[quarteroy]

Thx a lot whiskey ill pick some up today... i always shake the plants to get the water and stuff off I put two fingers around the stem and shake i can still see a little bit of residual but i didn't think that was a big deal plus with the fan blowing on them i would figure it would dry it... oh well looking forward to getting the organicide tired of these stupid gnat things.

[quarteroy]

So here is the pictures of what I was talking about Any imput would be help full what ever the cause I dont think they are getting any worse so hopefully that's the worst of it.





Check the album to see all the spots on the other plants.

[quarteroy]

So I Transplanted all the plants into 2gal pots. upgraded to a 68watt cfl and took the tubes out. Also installed can and canfan. So the flies got really bad turns out the were sarcid flies/fungus gnats whatever you want to call them. so when I was pulling my plants up there were tiny parasites all over the roots. they were the larva of the flies(the only harmful part of them) so i got them off the best I could. Now they are in some new sterile soil and seem to be doing decent so far. hopefully they don't come back or i will have to order some Gnatroll or something like that. 2 of the plants have started some secondary growing. put some fly paper in as well hopefully that will prevent some.






as always you can see lager in the album.

[WhiskeyTango]

Did you get that organicide? Exactly what that is made for. I see there's no perlite in your mix too. Might have some serious issues without proper drainage.
good vibes

[quarteroy]

Got the organicide tried it and 3 days later things seemed worse not saying it made it worse just didn't get any better. Ill probably try it again if I have issues. there is some pearlite in the mix also some sand both I think should do it. don't you? didn't seem to be a ton of pearlite in the soil but there was some.

[quarteroy]

Plants are looking good 20 days old today I believe. 0ne got under watered (small on in pics)growth stunted and lost a few leaves but looks like it will live. secondary growth is starting and they are starting to grow upward finally.








For larger remember they are in the album.